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The online gambling space has developed a serious entitlement problem, and content creators are just as responsible as players.
Three years ago, a $10,000 leaderboard was considered massive. Today, sites feel pressured to run $50,000-$100,000 leaderboards, endless deposit bonuses, daily cashback, weekly cashback, monthly cashback, lossback, and creator-specific rewards just to stay competitive.
The problem? Most of it isn't sustainable.
I've run the numbers. I've seen creators offering 10-50% deposit bonuses and massive reward promises. In many cases, it only works if more deposits come in later or if variance goes their way. That's not a sustainable business model, it's a rewards arms race.
Players now expect everything. Deposit bonuses. Lossback. Daily rewards. Weekly rewards. Monthly rewards. Extra rewards from creators. And if they don't get it, suddenly the creator or casino is "trash."
I've wagered hundreds of millions online. I receive weekly lossback and that's about it. Trust me, I'm down more than I'd care to admit. Gambling isn't supposed to be a guaranteed rewards program.
The reality is simple: I have players wagering millions who never ask for a dollar back. Then I have players wagering $2,500 expecting $800 in rewards and acting offended when it doesn't happen.
Go to Vegas or your local casino. Mid-sized players might get a meal, a room, or a few comps. The whales losing six or seven figures get penthouses, private jets, and VIP treatment. That's how casino economics have always worked.
But online, every player now expects whale-level treatment regardless of volume because creators and casinos keep trying to outdo each other.
And let's not ignore the bad actors. Creators overpromising rewards they can't afford. Sites running absurd races and promotions they later struggle to pay. Everyone chasing growth at any cost.
The uncomfortable truth is that most creators aren't making what people think they are. After leaderboards, rewards, giveaways, and promotions, many months are break-even with a little profit left over.
At some point, casinos, creators, and players need to accept reality. Gambling should be entertainment first. Rewards should be a bonus, NOT an expectation. Until the industry stops trying to one-up itself, the cycle will continue getting worse.
Story time as I had the chance to talk to this "Drunk" guy from the quoted tweet.
At the heart of it, he is basically claiming that the exact scenario described here is how other major casinos operate, claiming Stake does this too L O L (NOT the case).
I made it very clear from the jump, IF this is what he and his streamers are handshaking to and mutually agreeing to, THEN he's free to run deals how he wants.
However, if he's running it this way because he thinks this is how other major casinos including Stake operate, it's just factually incorrect.
I also think its disingenuous and predatory to NOT disclose this information up front to his streamers just to bring it up when its beneficial for them at the end of the deal and claim "this is industry standard" therefore you should have known, when in fact this is NOT industry standard.
When confronted, he claims he has someone "working with stake" and he told him its the same as the deal he described.
When asked for proof, I was sent screenshots of that streamer literally just describing basically how Negative Carry-Over works.
The way Negative Carry-Over (NCO) works is if one month, for example, the players are up lets say $100,000 NGR (net gaming revenue), then that means the next month, the players would have to lose back that $100,000 before the NGR goes in the Positive again for that streamer to claim their revenue-share.
Sounds like a simple concept right? Well, that's because it is.
However, it appears Drunk is taking it upon himself to stretch the truth of what negative carry-over means in this industry and use it as an excuse to both NOT pay the streamers under him their agreed upon rates owed NOR the final leaderboards of the players under the guise of "Well the NGR is negative, therefor you owe it, so I'll just not pay you out and not pay your players and deduct the money you owe from that".
It looks like in some cases, he's even gone so far as to literally BILL the streamers saying they OWE THE CASINO MONEY because after they ended their deal, the NGR was negative.
Please stay FAR AWAY from predatory tactics like this, as it can not only effect YOU, but ALSO your PLAYERS and COMMUNITY MEMBERS if they refuse to payout leaderboards
@twinkuismark This guy also declared at @TheGoobr DMs that he died, asked for funeral money and said on the livestream he has to leave gamble and didn’t wanted to gamble the money goobr gave him
Wasn’t this guy releasing 2d ago a thread about goobr?
Saying he’s broke and shit?
Or am I tripping?
He even said he will stop gambling and stuff, now talking about building a community?
Funny plottwist @TheGoobr