@nerdiciste I am the very model of a true post-evangelical
I've information traditional, biblical, and doctrinal
I know the kings of Judah, and I quote the books canonical
From Genesis to Patmos John, in order categorical
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung If Isaiah, Christ and Paul don’t pass the muster with you, you probably won’t care for the Lollards in 1395, the church father Origen, or the general view of Christian leaders pre-313 that violence is inconsistent with the gospel. I get it; nonviolence is a challenge.
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung The prophets describe the Kingdom of God as an era when nations no longer make war and the lion lies down with the lamb. Jesus proclaims the Kingdom has arrived. As a sign this is so, he is the first fruit of the Resurrection.
There is no just war. When war comes, we lament.
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung Ever consider that expressing and considering multiple viewpoints helps to steer us to deeper waters? Confusion isn't the work of the Holy Spirit, it's that one guy jibber-jabbering and loudly accusing everyone else of ignorance and worse if they disagree with him.
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung Sounds like you’re saying anyone who disagrees with you isn’t really a Christian.
Careful, chum. That’s a pretty hubristic statement.
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung I’m not sure what you find upsetting about people holding different views from yours, but there’s no fight here to be won. The Bible speaks Truth with many voices, so can God’s people
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung You keep going to extreme scenarios to justify your position. It sounds like you really have difficulty accepting the essential nonviolence of Jesus.
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung It’s interesting how you’ve fetishized violence and made it sacred, while equating nonviolence, which requires courage and discipline, with weakness.
Any child can indulge violent fantasies. Jesus calls his people to holiness.
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung Well, it’s like Jesus said: “A new command I give you. If he pulls a knife, you pull a gun. If he puts one of yours in the hospital, you put one of his in the morgue. That’s the Kingdom of Heaven way.”
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung I’m just saying, read the Temple cleansing accounts for what they do say, not for what you want them to say. It’s dramatic but has no violence aimed at people.
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung Read that again. Jesus used the whip on the animals, not the people.
And when Peter used the sword, Jesus told him to put it away.
@itsyoboinarza@kevinmyoung You have to forgive Kevin. He has a hard time understanding that Jesus was being facetious when he taught nonviolence and called peace-makers the children of God. As with Paul, his great learning has driven him insane.
Kara mundo,
Ni bedauras ke nia prezidanto venanta estas idiotestro. Ni ne donvotis lin -- tiuj estis aliaj usanoj, kiuj forgesis kiel ami. Bonvolu, ne nin malamu.
Amike,
Uso
If you find it a challenge to maintain relationships across the aisle, remember that one of Jesus’ disciples was Simon, who wanted to kill anyone who collaborated with Rome. Another was Matthew, who got rich by collaborating with Rome.
Love people. Even when it’s hard.
Christian evangelicals have dismissed sex abuse cases by church leaders for years. No wonder they so readily dismiss sex abuse cases by Trump. #MeToo#churchtoo