Analysis, narrative, and recruiting insights for the maize and blue. A few takes on current events. 2023 National Champions 🏈 2026 National Champions 🏀
@JayScottSmith You understand what “tends” to right? As in not always.
When Michigan wins 8+ games they have a ~.700 win% against MSU.
MSU has had some great seasons but tends to capitalize when Michigan is down.
@WolverineCorner This would be the first sign that someone needs a twitter break if they see that.
Full disclosure; I totally saw that first time I saw him.
@CFBChuckk I will die on the hill that Fleck would be one of the best high floor hires they could make. I have yet to hear anyone make a convincing argument why it would be a bad hire.
I do really like you top 2 tiers.
@Chillindamos1@MaxWeisenstein The biggest difference is expectation. MSU most years expects to lose to Michigan.
When Michigan loses to MSU we are calling for jobs.
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@Chillindamos1 Also doesn’t change the fact that by his own numbers Michigan has just under .700 Win% when having an 8+ win season. MSU gets the majority of their wins when Michigan is down.
All of MSU history exists in the 60s, 08’-15’, and 21’. Absolutely nothing else exists outside of that
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@greenforlife6@PaulFanson So what people remember is what is most important? Yikes
I’d say being the top 8 in wins in a 70 year period is significant.
But fine they are still 7th in the last 10 years.
I’m not going to argue with you though man. I hope you get the football peace you’re looking for
Thank you Doctor for the leg work!
You just told me when Michigan wins 8 or more games. (The min expectation) they have a close to .700 winning percentage. That is 7 in 10 in a rivalry.
This means MSU gets the majority of their Ws against Michigan when?
They are down👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The statement "MSU... only beats UofM when they are in complete disarray," is provably and laughably false.
In years when UofM wins over 70% of their other games, they are just 30-14 (68%) in games vs. MSU
If MSU wins over 70% of other games, they are 18-2 (90%) vs. UofM.
@sparty4you@PaulFanson I didn’t miss anything. There have been some really good MSU teams and they always take the rivalry very seriously.
My contention was simply that most of MSU wins are when Michigan is down which is completely true.
You guys are the ones making it something it isn’t.
@spartanannie The reaction from the fan base tells you everything you need to know. MSU expects Michigan to beat them most years. If Michigan loses to MSU we want the coach fired. It is considered malpractice. Michigan media is far harsher this week than any MSU fan could ever be.
@spartanannie Absolutely can’t argue that, but that doesn’t bother me. When they are good, they are very good and take the rivalry very seriously. They just aren’t good that often.
@spartanannie You keep rounding down to 66%, and I’m simply doing that to illustrate the out of 10 context. Do you prefer 6.8 out of 10? The same thing. I’m still right in what I originally said. Deal with it.
Just because we’re proud of our program doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy yours.
@spartanannie In sports 70% is dominating. And “straight up bad” doesn’t matter. Just like it doesn’t matter when Michigan is down like this year, which I gave credit for.
He hasn’t I’m sorry that makes you upset. MSU only beats Michigan about 3 in 10 when Michigan is “good”.
@greenforlife6@PaulFanson Oh and by the way Michigan is “The Elites” They have the 8th most wins since 1947 and are a few away from as good as 5th, and most all time.
You realize there is more to history than 08’-14’ and the last couple years right?
@greenforlife6@PaulFanson But I’m not wrong.
I said that MSU tends to beat Michigan when they are down.
When Michigan wins 8+ they beat MSU 70% of the time
True or False
Also Michigan literally won a National championship in 23’ and half the Conference Championships this decade.
@greenforlife6@PaulFanson So what is your claim then? Are you trying to say that MSU is a better program? Obviously not. What exactly is your point? Are you just desperate for recognition?
Am I’m sorry my statement was correct. MSU only beats Michigan 3 in 10 when Michigan is “good”.
@PaulFanson I’m going by your numbers dip shit. When Michigan wins 8+ (good) you said they win ~7 in 10. That is dominant.
Hence my earlier statement that MSU tends to win when Michigan is down. (Winning less than 8 games).
How is my statement wrong?
@spartanannie When Michigan wins 8 or more games (good). They win ~7 out of 10. (According to Dr) That is domination.
When Michigan is down. Less than 8 wins, MSU has the majority of their wins.
And I said tend to. Doesn’t mean they can’t. 21’ an obvious example.
Two things are true
1) MSU legitimately beat Michigan completely in every phase of the game.
2) MSU is a mid tier program that tends to only beat Michigan when they are in complete disarray.
Seen some Michigan-MSU fan talk today.
MSU fans should be celebrating and talking. MSU dominated Michigan. Assbeating.
And Michigan fans, yes, the loss itself is a symptom of a bigger problem, but don't pretend you don't care. We HATE losing to MSU. That was a top 5 loss ever.
@Schoolboy_Hew@greenforlife6@PaulFanson Except that Michigan is “good” most of the time, through 120 years. Once in a blue moon when MSU is good, and an 8 year span in the 10s, they tend to beat Michigan (usually because Michigan’s own stupidity).
Hence the dominant record all time for Michigan.