Dating abroad is much better than dating in the west.
But.
To have a high volume of good looking girls or to find a girlfriend anywhere, you'll still need to be working on yourself, have game and have a system- but the ROI is usually much better abroad.
What's worked well for me:
-Working on myself no matter where I'm living
-Staying in shape
-Getting top tier, professional photos for dating apps and IG, and knowing how to mix in real life approaches
-Screening for medium-high and high interest girls early and screening out low interest and timewasters fast
-Going to dating markets where your value goes further
-Developing a system and optimizing it
And no, I don't pay prostitutes or simp and you don't need to either. Also, the majority of girls abroad are not desperate to leave their country or looking for a green card. The difference is your results will be even better than the West and the interactions will usually be with more feminine and receptive women.
The photos below are some of my highlights from living and dating abroad- not to brag, but it's to show I'm not faking it and to show what's possible.
If you do the work, improve your looks, get the right photos, and develop your game and personality, you'll almost certainly do well and your effort is rewarded more abroad.
In my posts I share actionable, no BS game strategy and tips from my real world experience.
Cheers!
Pre date checklist:
-Clean your condo of stray hairs, wash your sheets and take out the trash
-1 beer pre game with some music
-Condoms + Viagra on hand (supercharge)
-Playlist curated for when she arrives
-Fridge stocked: wine, some girlie drinks, and snacks
-Overnight kit: clean oversized t-shirt, extra towel, new toothbrush and an extra phone charger
@BradleyGrey_@hispanicnomad 6 to one half dozen the other for girls. Both are very easy.
Manila has a better food setup and more city stuff. Cebu is less concrete jungle and quicker access to beaches. Cebuano people are slightly warmer/friendlier.
More proof that "I don't drink 😅" is bullshit and code for "I'm not that interested/I know what you're trying to do and I'm not having it".
When a girl actually has interest she won't a roadblock get in the way of meeting you
I did a 2 week dating app experiment in a few US cities after living and dating abroad.
The results after 2 weeks:
-About 10-15 matches per day, per app
-39 phone numbers
Observations:
-American girls are usually more chill about drinks and not trying to squeeze a dinner
-Your game needs to be slightly wittier, slightly more detached, slightly less validating to girls than abroad. But overall, similar game works and you don't need fancy cocky/funny, over the top clown game
-American girls are usually pretty chill about agreeing to dates quickly. Many of them are sick of "pen pals" and guys who don't take the lead in a masculine, respectful way
-Getting dates and lays in the US is not that hard. The harder part is that a lot of them in the US are less agreeable, more independent minded and a bit less feminine. The ROI and interaction quality is usually is better abroad. But there's nice American girls too!
Don't be like this guy.
It gets you short replies, turns her off, etc.
Meanwhile this same girl has sent me nudes and used lots of emojis, messaging first, etc.
It's still blows my mind how many western guys abroad have zero game and chase/simp/have no self respect. They got the memo somehow to go abroad but didn't get the memo not to simp and chase.
Definitely can. You can run a rotation of 2-4 girls and have FWB/mini LTR vibes with them without the intensity or expectations of a relationship.
-tone down the fuckboy vibes SLIGHTLY
-go grab food, do a hobby, cook together etc after you've fucked
-hit her up a couple days later for date2 and basically make it pretty similar setup to the first date
-see her 1x a week, tops 2
-you do have to manage some relationship expectations/feelings girls will develop. Best play is honesty with the least amount of disclosure. The more you disclose about seeing other girls/fuckboying around the more it turns a lot of girls off(rubs it in their face too much) and makes them go "ahh ok. We'll meet and fuck if I'm free but I'm not investing any real energy into him" and that may sound fun to some guys but after a while you do want a bit more of a vibe with a girl
Don't use dating apps if you're an average guy, for a few reasons:
1)Ratios: 75% of dating app users are male
2)Swipe gap: Men swipe right on 50% of women. Women swipe right on 5-10% of men.
3)Abundance makes women pickier: every chick has 99+ likes in her queue. They'll get 99+ a day. So even if it's subconscious, their value self-perception goes way up and they get artificially much pickier. (Ie- you could be a male 6 and 5'10 and a 5/10 chick who's slightly chubby will swipe left most of the time. Even though in reality, you're still above her level)
4)Lots of fat chicks: for the USA, outside of California and Florida, there's a lot less chicks in good shape. Many are carrying 15-20 extra lbs, or even straight up fat.
So.
You have to be in the top20% of male profiles to even be in the fucking game.
Top10% to get consistent matches and dates.
Top3-5% is when women message first, invest more, flake less and you get to pick. You'll get some hot girls too.
Top1-2% *consistently* gets the hottest girls on the app.
That's what I've noticed is the reality in any city or country.
And it's extremely location dependent. A guy might be top20% in the west, and then top5-7% in Latin America or Southeast Asia- simply by changing his location.
So as a man, if you can't become *at least* top 20% in your given city, don't bother. It'll be an exercise in frustation- join meet up groups, approach women during the day, etc etc. You'll have to rely on in person game more since your personality, familiarity, social proof and other factors can come out more.
But also, a lot of guys underrate themselves. If you're fit and under 15% bodyfat, decent style, good haircut and you get good photos done, I think the majority of guys can be in the top20%.
So unless you're genetically unlucky, it's still worth trying.
...And if you're in the top10% or better, it works well. You don't see guys bitching about dating apps being shit for men, if they're in the top10%.
So change what you can: improve your looks/fitness/style, get good pics and change your location.
A bit too long and basic, yea. For getting date1, I'd keep it shorter than that. I like to move fast, personally.
You generally have a bit more margins for error in your game with non western girls.
But man honestly if a girl nexts you because you sent 2 or 3 messages too many that were "boring", she wasn't that interested from the jump & she's a bit too uptight.