World at War

Interested in the SWW and the events leading up to the outbreak of war. Logistics/Politics/diplomacy/Strategy/Society.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

When my great uncle was captured in North Africa during the offensives of 1942, he was marched to Benghazi. After 6 weeks they were loaded onto two ships and transported to Italy. The ship in front of my uncle's was torpedoed. A survivor wrote a poem, which my uncle noted down.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ Were you really stupid enough to try to use an unnamed, unknown "British witness" as a source of primary evidence against the well documented protestations made against Vernet by the British consul in Buenos Aires. You seem to understand history like you fight wars. Poorly.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ You actually shared a quote that isn't attributable to anyone. The Spanish wiki site that you took this from can't even provide a name. But yet you use this as evidence that the British government supported Vernet. Is this what stands for historical rigour in Argentina?

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ Indeed, at the time there wasn't a single major international power that recognised Argentine sovereignty of the Islands. That includes Spain, the nation whose claim to the Islands your rely upon for your own.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ The apparent evidence that you provide is also nonsense. The British position was that Vernet had no right to seize the ships because they came under British sovereignty. The British consulate in Buenos Aires protected Vernet's action as an infringement of British sovereignty.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ And unlike the Argentine backed business endeavour, the British settlement at Port Egmont was entirely British and lasted for 11 years. 6 years longer than the combined "Argentinian" presence on the Islands. Argentina has no valid or substantive legal claim.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ Then attempted to establish a penalty colony within a year that also failed and required Britain to reclaim their rights to the Islands to restore order. This led to the only successful and long-term period of governance in the Islands history.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ Isn't it embarrassing that the sole Argentinian claim is that of a German-French businessman who saw the endeavour as principally a business endeavour and who played both sides? Then a penalty colony mutiny once that collapsed? If that is the best you have, then it isn't enough.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ Referring back to Vernet, it is important to remember that he also sort British permission to establish the colony. Vernet's colony wasn't Argentinian in any meaningful sense, and he endorsed a British reclamation if his property rights were guaranteed.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@T4LFCB @_SgurrUaran @HearnsOfficial @tamworthchris Patagonia would disagree with your claims about "never colonising anyone". Not to mention its historical and continuous poor treatment of the indigenous population of Argentina.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@MadCarpincho @NOTTHISWAYQQ Argentina was established in 1816. An Argentina colony (with Argentinian's a minority) existed for no more than 6 years.

[World at War @WorldatWar39]

@Vagoneta69 @gnshchsbcusba @NOTTHISWAYQQ The garrison was already in disarray when the year prior a penal uprising led to the murder if the governor and chaos. Even when the Argentinians did attempt to settle it they were either a minority or were incapable of governing.