@MinModulation I think there is a sense in which the liberal radar for white supremacist imagery has become a bit over sensitive. This post triggered a small firestorm because people thought it was a 14 words reference. A drive down a Vermont neighborhood would disturb some libs
@tragic_endings_ Like, no, this is obviously an attempt to shame someone for clout and it can easily spiral into a harassment campaign. I don't think it helps to treat the sort of brainworm dipshits who do that even more softly than they're already treated, that's what caused the problem
@tragic_endings_ Look, when even someone who KINDA gets it can only imagine approaching as an apology strewn note given an instant before scurrying away, there's an issue. If that note were real (it's not) that post would be REALLY cruel and the OP supports it. I think you're downplaying this
@sneedago@RadlanBonkey Well the meritocratic bit is a big kicker, there. 50 percent of MIT's particle physics grad students are foreign born. And yes, multiculturalism and woman's rights are part of that list of why the west succeeded, I don't know what to tell you
I used to think that a real reckoning, an honest conversation about how destructive and cruel the 2010's era of feminism was would put us on the path to fixing the damage. Now, I think people can recognize the damage and still refuse to give up the power to torture men in public
Men don’t approach women in public because we told them it was annoying and creepy. In retrospect we probably should have just taught them what we don’t think is creepy but we didn’t so if you’re attracted to men you’re gonna have to approach them now, they won’t do it anymore.
@dynasty_fleecer Seriously addressing our cultural dysfunction around sex and dating is, actually, the grown up thing to do. Childishness is avoiding hard conversations because they're awkward
@RadlanBonkey I'm really curious about this weird position right wingers take. Like, we need to defend western civilization by completely destroying everything that typifies the success of western nations. Okay... Is the pop summoning demons to fight blasphemy, now?
@NPD_K9_UNIT Like, let's just say I'm a 50 year old virgin. I'm not, but let's just say I am. Can we talk seriously about our grotesque cultural regression, now?
@NPD_K9_UNIT I think out loud about things. I can talk your ear off about housing policy and green energy. Society's increasing sexual dysfunction seems like the wrong sort of topic to make taboo with threats of social stigma
@holdamoonbeam_ I am not going to run a billion lines of social calculus to see if the vibes are right. We are not going to castigate a guy for the most meager of meager flirts. This was not a dangerous situation, the people claiming this is unacceptable probably just need to stay home
@holdamoonbeam_ I'm going to go ahead and just say there isn't much of a conversation to be had here. No, actually, it's totally fine even if the space is male dominated. This isn't a standard you would apply going in the other direction, the guy (who probably isn't real) did nothing wrong
@pepecaramel I don't take particular offense to the word, specifically. Like, her posts later make it clear that men's interests or well-being don't factor into her calculus, but I think that both sexes kinda have to teach each other about a lot of things
@cvmonakow Like congrats you got mad at a thing that was supposed to paint women as being irrationally hostile towards interested men. Kinda plays into the idea that the act of deeming a specific woman's hostility to a guy as being excessive is impossible for a lot of people
@cvmonakow Oh I would actually agree. THAT tweet on its own should be presumed raigbait until proven otherwise. Thing is, the OP I'm quoting defended a negative reaction which, in context of it being obvious bullshit, kinda makes it worse
Ultimately it's going to have to be a matter of just not letting people like that into your life. For your sake and the sake of any friend you might introduce a woman to: if someone acts like this you should probably put distance between you and not invite them places
The OP clearly understands the problem, but IN PRACTICE I don't think they're willing to ever tell a woman that her reaction to a come on is inappropriate. This was basically her wishlist of what a guy should do but she worked backwards from the conclusion that it was creepy