@Sarno_trading Il y a réellement des traders, notamment en France, qui font des gains importants ; c'est juste que quand tu n'as rien à vendre, tu ne ressens pas le besoin d'exhiber tes profits. End/3
@Sarno_trading Les vrais traders rentables n'ont aucune raison de poster leur PnL pour "flex" s'ils n'ont rien à vendre.
Du coup, tout le contenu qu'on voit est plus ou moins bullshit. Les payouts sont réels, mais si tu dépenses 70k pour en sortir 75k, l'intérêt est limité. 2/..
"just backtest 500 trades and you'll be profitable"
no mf
i watched a guy backtest 1,000 trades with an 80% win rate
went live
blew his account in 6 days
you know why?
because backtesting and live trading are completely different fucking games
and everyone's lying to you about this:
here's what actually happened:
dude spent 4 months backtesting
documented every trade
built massive spreadsheet
1,000+ trades
70% win rate on historical data
2.5 R:R average
"i'm ready"
bought $500 challenge
day 1: took his setup, got stopped out, felt the EMOTION for first time
day 2: took revenge trade (never had that urge in backtest)
day 3: moved his stop loss (never felt that fear in backtest)
day 4: closed winner at 1R because terrified (never felt that in backtest)
day 5: held loser hoping it comes back (never felt that desperation in backtest)
day 6: account blown
his backtest didn't prepare him for SHIT
because backtesting teaches you SETUPS
live trading teaches you PSYCHOLOGY
here's what nobody tells you:
backtesting is done in a zero-pressure environment
you can't feel the urge to revenge trade on historical data
you can't feel FOMO on a replay
you can't feel panic on a trade that already happened
you can't feel fear when you already know the outcome
live trading has:
real money
real fear
real greed
real FOMO
real revenge impulses
your brain functions completely differently
here's the data that'll hurt:
traders with 1,000+ backtest trades: 5% pass rate on prop firms
traders with 100+ LIVE small account trades: 70% pass rate
because live trading teaches you:
- how you react to being wrong
- how you handle 3 losses in a row
- how strong your urge to move stops actually is
- how scared you get when in profit
- how revenge trading feels in your chest
backtesting teaches NONE of that
i'm not saying don't backtest
i'm saying backtesting is 10% of the education
the other 90% comes from experiencing PRESSURE
here's the real path:
backtest 100 trades (not 2,000) just to verify edge exists
then buy the cheapest challenge you can find ($50-100)
trade it LIVE with real emotions
you'll probably fail in 3-5 days
GOOD
you just bought more education than 6 months of backtesting
because you learned:
- you revenge trade after 2 losses (didn't know this in backtest)
- you close winners at 1R from fear (didn't feel this in backtest)
- you can't handle drawdown (didn't experience this in backtest)
- your stop is too tight for your emotions (didn't know this in backtest)
now fix THOSE emotional problems
buy another cheap challenge
fail again
learn more about YOUR psychology
after 3-4 "planned failures":
you've spent $300
you've learned your exact psychological weaknesses
you've refined your system for YOUR emotional reality
you're ready to pass
vs the backtester:
spent 4 months
has zero experience with real emotions
thinks he's ready because spreadsheet looks good
fails first challenge from emotional breakdown
"my strategy doesn't work"
wrong
your strategy is fine
your psychology under pressure is broken
and you can't fix psychology without experiencing pressure
stop backtesting for 6 months thinking you're prepared
start buying cheap challenges to learn how YOU actually behave under stress
$100 failures teach you more about YOUR psychology than 1,000 backtested trades
that's the uncomfortable truth
daily objective reached in 15 min. as often I want to continue for at least an hour... but I'll stop there. I think I'll take an account with a prop firm to trade when I've reached the daily objectives so as not to make mistakes on the serious accounts 😅
@mrmarek_@TraderSumo1 maybe. but for 100usd per month it would also be worth it. I've been with very good ones (like kane or derivative trading) and it never cost more than 100usd per month...😌 putting 2500usd per year gives the impression that you know that people will not stay.. (maybe I'm wrong😇)
@traderkane@FundedNext Yesterday, a support agent (maybe a bot) replied, "No, it's not allowed" (see screenshot I posted a few hours ago). But given your response, I just contacted support via chat. They transferred me to the expert team, and now they're telling me it's allowed :) .
So, that's good :)
I also saw a trader on YouTube pretending to trade live while using NinjaTrader's replay function...
Beware, this industry is rotten, people are willing to do anything to sell.
I'm seeing more and more people posting backtest reports on X to show how effective their strategy is... it can't be said enough: backtests aren't reality.
If someone wants to sell you a service, an algorithm, or access to Discord based on a backtest report, run away!