Obedience is not how we earn Christ.
Obedience is what grace grows in those who belong to Christ.
Be humble.
Be gentle.
But do not apologize for what Jesus commands.
@PsychMove@CatholicASAP@chrisjenks79 So basically, human worth is equal because we decide to treat it that way. But if that’s all it is, what makes your view binding on the doctor, court, or culture that decides the unborn don’t count?
When obedience gets labeled legalism, do not shrink.
Return to Scripture.
Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.”
Grace does not make obedience shameful.
Grace makes obedience possible.
@PsychMove@CatholicASAP@chrisjenks79 If God is off the table, what gives every human being equal worth, including the unborn, disabled, unwanted, and dependent, without making that worth depend on ability, desire, or legal permission?
@falthman71@TrustJesusAlone@LHOGGavriel@mmamasaidd@AmericaTex4ever I’m not mixing salvation with discipleship. I’m saying the New Testament does not present Christ saving people who have no concern to follow Him. We are saved by grace, not works. Amen. But that same grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and live for Him. Titus 2:11–14.
@PsychMove@CatholicASAP@chrisjenks79 That’s a big claim, but it doesn’t answer what I said. I’m not asking you to accept the Bible as your authority. I’m saying Scripture grounds human worth in the image of God, not in nature. If you think that fails, name the fallacy or show where the reasoning breaks.
@i2McAbre@rthompsona I agree Adam and Eve had a true choice. I just wouldn’t say worship means God needed people to sit at His feet and never ask a question. The sin wasn’t wanting knowledge. It was rejecting God’s command and deciding they could define good and evil apart from Him.
@DoulosOfJesus Yep, I agree. 1 Corinthians 3 is a serious warning too. Christ is the foundation, and anything built on something else will be exposed. The Pharisees had the words, the rules, and the status, but still missed the One Scripture was pointing to.
@LHOGGavriel@TrustJesusAlone@mmamasaidd@AmericaTex4ever Yep! John 14:15 isn’t works-based salvation. It’s love showing itself in obedience. Grace doesn’t make obedience the root of salvation. It makes obedience the fruit.
@FrankDucharme2@rabbriansamuel Yep, that’s exactly what I meant. The law isn’t hanging over the believer as condemnation anymore. We obey from love because Christ already paid the debt we never could.
@Meldougherty77 The label doesn’t settle it. If a group teaches a different Jesus, a different view of sin, or a different gospel, I can love the people and still say the doctrine isn’t Christian.
@StephenDDavey Honestly, religion can tell you what to do, but only Christ can make you new. Nicodemus had the title, the knowledge, and the rules, and Jesus still told him, you must be born again.
@LeeFoo9 I wouldn’t make leaving my first step if the issue can be addressed with Scripture. But if the leaders reject God’s Word and bless what He forbids, staying isn’t loyalty. It’s disloyalty to Christ.
@MToTheSquare Mormons can be sincere and kind, but sincerity doesn’t make LDS doctrine Christian. Love tells the truth, and the truth is Mormonism teaches a different Jesus and a different gospel.
@writeontheedg3 Honestly, the Bible never shows God scared of human freedom. He can let people make true choices and still accomplish His purpose. Sovereignty isn’t God panicking on the throne.
@DrFrankTurek Romans 9 is definitely about Israel, but I don’t think you can say it has nothing to do with salvation. Paul is still talking about mercy, faith, unbelief, and God’s right to save how He chooses.
@WilliamsKr88077 Honestly, I’m thankful for good laws, but they can’t do what only the gospel can. A changed heart will do more than a scared citizen ever will.