@rixer119@ODG__1 In verse portrayal is a part of the characters overall portrayal, that's precisely why Buggy's irony works for example.
Zoro's subordinacy is an anomaly and rightfully so since his in verse perception is warranted since he has demonstrated his mettle, it's not arbitrary.
@_7aaln@RJupiter7@Barca_Wizard I said PrimeRay(+plus) tf?
No one is disregarding anything, you guys are simply using the dynamic to suggest Sanji is equal, it doesn't, because Zoro doesn't benefit from it only Sanji does.
@RJupiter7@Barca_Wizard I meant they are irrelevant in a conversation about a tier where they never attained even in their primes. This is what I meant when I said only Sanji benefits from the dynamic.
Zoro scaling to a hypothetical PrimeRay+ is Zoro downscale compared to his own narrative baseline
@_7aaln@RJupiter7@Barca_Wizard No they are not equal,
-Zoro has never once been portrayed to be anything less than Luffy's no 2.
-Sanji has never once been potrayed to be Luffy's no 2.
Wings gimmick scales Zoro to a hypothetical prime ray+ , that is a Zoro downscale compared to his OWN narrative.
@RJupiter7@Barca_Wizard Ok I see the point you are making, you are arguing for a farther ahead future, in which they grow beyond their eos levels in which case Sanji's relativity to a superior Zoro than the one who beat Mihawk necessitates a level beyond Mihawk and Shanks.
Makes sense,π
@RJupiter7@Barca_Wizard Sanji will grow, question is how do you come to conclude it's > Mihawk when he's capped to be lower than Zoro who needs a mid fight buff to potentially beat Mihawk high ext diff.
Ray and Gaban are fodder in this equation.
@RJupiter7@Barca_Wizard If Tier=Zoro/Mihawk/Shanks/Sanji
How do you get to Sanji>Mihawk, when Zoro is stronger by your own admission?
Mihawk will be stronger than Zoro during the fight and Zoro will grow to surpass him. Zoro doesn't need a bloom to beat Sanji. So how do you get to Sanji>Mihawk?
@RJupiter7@Barca_Wizard Reread what I said (arguement for equality).
Only Sanji benefits from that dynamic, because it tells us Sanji level is the minimum required to be a wing of the pk not that Sanji is equal to Zoro
@gigiconlaG Sommers is the best side villain. He ain't giving no cringe speech, he knows the plot is against him so he books itπ
'King of Hell...fuck all that, big Mu got that'
@ClairvoyantEye1 Chp 3: demonic beast, demon in human form
Chp 95: Breath of all things feels like standing in the gates of hades
Chp 417: A demon god, turned his attacks into mist.
Chp 1035: I will become the King of Hell.
Chp 1194: has learned to wield his Sense of self
Its time Oda. Asura koh