@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok you can't cite the iron wall as evidence for a master plan of expulsion when it says lets do the helsingfors program, i am prepared to take a binding oath to protect the minority etc. his point is that force will be needed to protect the rights of the newcomers.
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok you told me you read jabotinsky earlier, but did you actually look up the helsingfors program? because he literally cites it.
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok in the past, a defeated but not surrendered population would be treated as victis pertinax and sold into slavery or exterminated. israel is treating them with kid gloves for their insane behavior.
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok at least the germans were surrendered. the arabs still havent surrendered. they still crow about continuing to fight us, after all. sumud, you know.
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok if i buy a building from a landlord in america, i am typically within my rights to redevelop it or move into it. why should arabs have special rights to live places? in fact the zionists did often give their arab tenants some help to find new accommodation when they evicted them.
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok if you want my opinion on this other question, the arabs should just get lost at this point or surrender unconditionally and put it to israel to dictate a territorial solution. but this "im fighting you like a lion waaaah you shot poor little old me" stuff is a bunch of bull.
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok all of the land owned by the jews before 1948 was bought, often for more than it was worth, from arabs or the authorities. theres nothing elaborate about it
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok dude, just look it up. jesus fucking christ. do you think arabs owned the other 94%? the percentage of territory that was owner-occupied (non-absentee) by arabs was very small, 10-12%. total arab land ownership was 20-30%, and the remainder was waste or owned by the govt.
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok people nowadays lose their homes bc they are attempting to homestead in area c, and the israeli government is not going to grant permission to enemies
@The_Stocky_Guy@larryelder@grok israel didnt take their homes before 1948 though, which was what the original debate was about. pay attention. stop losing the thread of the conversation loke an ai