@benwright Been a long time coming, and I say it as a fan. The amount of times Hany has flopped for a foul instead of passing it off to open players has been numerous.
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 Where did I say he would was "fantastic"? Where's your "historical data"?
You've only provided conjecture connecting a player's 12 and 9 minute stints to a significant loss in a game they did not even play. If it's not scapegoating it's an exaggeration at best. Good day!
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 I agree with the broader strategic matters you point out, but Brother, no way you're using that to say that Moore is responsible for a loss when he didn't even play π
If you are, then that's precisely what scapegoating is.
Appreciate the convo!
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 You're trolling at this point. You're the one bringing up the Dutch game now and he didn't even play in it π
England 0-0
Iran 1-0
He did not contribute to a loss in the world cup. Fact. Yes, his play wasnt fantastic but the blame against him is over exaggerated
Moving on!
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 And how did that affect the result, which is precisely my point? It didn't, 0-0. I don't know if you're trolling but you can't disagree with that fact
Shaq was on the roster but didn't play the dutch
End of day we are fans who want to see more from the team in this World Cup.
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 Well it is a team sport, but scroll up again and you'll see that the original my argument was simply he didn't add nor detract from the result of the game (0-0). Thats fact.
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 Don't you see that the same question can be asked of the players who "didn't provide" anything in the first 75mins of the game before he was subbed on, also "knowing what the team needed"? Yet the end of game sub was the "indictment", in your opinion? That's scaepgoating
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 Those aren't mutually exclusive "He neither added" because no passes or plays lead to goal scoring opportunities, but he neither "detracted" because he did a defender's job of not conceding goals.
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 And that's a defender's fault? Objectively speaking, 0 shots on goal is not indicative of a defense issue. Not conceding a goal is generally what a defender is tasked to do and that game ended 0-0. Surely we can agree on that?
@Landonicus@GrantChay19 I respectfully disagree. The games he played were already done for before he was subbed in. England ended 0-0. One could argue he neither added nor detracted to the already lackluster performance at that point. Easy scapegoat for fans though
@reddrum88@JohnMarstonSD@snkr_twitr Brother, just take a look at Nike's stock. The occasional limited sneaker drop selling out isn't indicative of Nike thriving