@bowefamilyEV@SjvTesla@rhensing@brandenflasch In my case, currently I have HW2.5 and I’m not even comfortable using the EAP, very slow reaction and often does sudden braking. Doesn’t detect stop sign and traffic light. Wondering if the $2k upgrade will be worth the HW3 and FSD. Hoping to get HW4 for the future (big IF)