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Nativist. The English need not prove their sovereign right to England.

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@wylfcen "He has a mind of metal and wheels; and he does not care for growing things, except as far as they serve him for the moment."

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@avidseries Years ago I was in a Jordan Peterson facebook group. Every MFer who shared their big five personality results was 90+ percentile openness and high conscientiousness.

I'm sure the group selected for a type but I've been sceptical of these self-reports since.

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@GamingAndPandas Stop bickering. England and America are both cool.

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I understand exactly what you're saying.

Still, when you have nothing but your ideals - no institutional power, no political legitimacy, no real capacity to effect change, it's easy to dig your heels in and denounce. All you have to rely on is negation.

It's a lot harder to win the argument when pushing forward (which is our only real option).

What would you suggest?

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@jeremymstamper The gentleman on the right has a phenomenal cranium to waist ratio.

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@NationalReilly Apply this metaphor. What component of our heritage exactly are you willing to take down and use as firewood?

Remember it has to be something that you admittedly don't understand.

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Many people behave like cattle, they think only to the extent that it allows them to become aligned with the dominant power structure.

This guy is only looking to signal his devotion to orthodoxy and by extension his relative virtue and status. He barely has his own mind.

He's not representative of the typical Englishman. He's a type that exists in every society and has existed in every era.

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Yeah. Notice I never called you a leftist but a liberal. Still, every position you hold, every rhetorical move you make is entirely predictable because of those liberal priors and a commitment to those dogmas.

I haven't got AI to write me a thing, my tone changed in response to you shutting the discussion down with magic words. You could alternatively try engaging with what I have brought forward here but you've been remarkably evasive. My arguments have been pragmatic, realist. The moral or philosophical dimension, my preferences or biases are a different conversation entirely.

You can put me into the racist box, if you like, as a convenience but what I've outlined here is not a personal.

You could try clicking that explain button, ask the AI how accurate reasonable or evidence based I've been but you're just looking for an excuse not to engage seriously.

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If you took the time to look into it you would see that everything I've stated is backed up in academia.

You can call me what ever you like. Racism means different things to different people.

It has become a way for the unthinking to avoid dealing with a world that contradicts their priors.

That's clearly the case here.

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Good for you. But these things aren't equivalent. Britain isn't an international economic zone. It's home to millions of people. There a qualitive difference between you working away for economic opportunity and a rooted population finding their home town transformed in a generation and having nowhere to go.

Anyway this is skirting around the point. Diversity, especially rapid and with poor economic conditions leads to an increase in ethnic tribalism and a general breakdown in civic trust. This is well studied, leaving aside the ethnical argument.

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@OneRise1990 @PositivFuturist Liberalism is the problem.

It requires a kind of religious mania to sustain that level of cognitive dissonance.

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Personally I've lived as a minority in a very diverse part of London as well as a majority in an essentially homogeneous part of the country.

I'm going to let you use your imagination to investigate what that difference feels like on a personal level.

Essentially humans are tribal. Belonging and identity have a deep ethnic component in every part of the world and throughout all of history. The liberal misconception is that this can be overcome with wishful thinking. My bet is that this is not going to happen.

What difference does it make to me? I've already explained above. I want to live in a safe and functional society.

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That's not an essay. You asked for statistics earlier. Everything I've shared is backed up by official records.

"What difference does it make to you if a British mother is white or not?" Its a question of scale, isn't it.

Lets link it to the original point. From a pragmatic point of view, It means demographic anxiety, the erosion of social and institutional trust, the breakdown of political legitimacy, an increase in unrest, social fragmentation and violence. And as a result a less free more censorious and more volatile society. It means an increased likelihood of sectarianism and political extremism.

In sentimental right wing terms it means the annihilation of civilizational continuity.

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In the past 20 years net migration accounted for roughly 70% of the UKs population growth, in 2020 that grew to 99%.

At the last census (2021) the white British population was 75% of the total population. We don't have more recent statistics but the change will have accelerated. In 2025 45% of births were to non white British mothers.

Mass migration, in this context, means a rapid demographic transformation in a single generation and a projection of my generation, millennials, potentially going from a strong majority to a minority in the course of their own lifetime in their own homeland.

Something that no one asked for, something that is condemned as right-wing conspiracy and a denied legitimate political representation.

This century the population has grown by roughly eleven million, that's 15% of the total current population mostly driven by migration. That's about 1 in 6 people.

That population growth strains services while productivity and GDP have stagnated.

We could get lost in a deep analysis on whether or not migration represents an economic net good but I won't claim to be an expert there.

The issue is deeper than economics anyway, the concern here is civilizational and existential. It is the role of the state to serve the British people, not to replace them for the sake of GDP and an overstrained NHS.

I don't care who you voted for. You are a liberal of some kind.

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I'm not interested in defending either Farage or Robinson. I don't have loyalties to either of them. I was just explaining how predictable your worldview is based on your rhetoric.

Characters like Farage and Robinson are exploiting, if you like, the consequences of real structural problems. They didn't create this environment, they are capitalising on a niche created through historic political mismanagement and policy failure.

The flags would go up and the unrest would continue despite their involvement.

My original point - these conditions are an inevitable consequence of mass migration and the dogma surrounding it.

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@Hakathor @harrywardy22 @northernertweet @MrBrendanCox @Grok outline the demographic changes in the UK in relation to mass migration over the period of the past 50 years. Use credible sources to project predicted demographic shifts for the next 50 years.

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"How do know my worldview?"

"cold hard rage" Signalling opposition to Farage. The implication that criticising demographic challenges is "inciting violence". The use of "racist marches" to delegitimise your political opponents. "Flags string up everywhere" signalling contempt for nationalistic or heritage based loyalties.

You're a perfectly programmed liberal/progressive drone. Apparently completely unaware of the fact?

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@Hakathor @northernertweet @MrBrendanCox Your worldview incites violence against the native population. Social fragmentation, conflict and alienation are its inevitable consequences.

In fact, the imposition of mass migration and the psychological warfare required enforce it is an act of violence against us.

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@RusGarbageHuman I genuinely believe that the Anglo's intrinsic sense of fair play is what makes us unique.

It's our greatest virtue and to foreigners our clearest vulnerability.