@johncdirks As a rule of thumb no but subject to the judgment of their spiritual father. There’s edge cases like Dyer for instance we was very educated as a reformed Protestant/catholic and had studied patristics and eastern theology for years by the time he was catechumen
@needGod_net TIL 1) chairs only existed in church buildings in first century Greece, 2) Paul only wanted Thessaloniki to keep his oral tradition and not any of the other churches he pastored for some reason. Thanks Ryan!
@johncdirks “Hey Orthobro, quite convenient that you would select the first millennium as the time you’d hand select to support your argument, don’t you think?”
@JeffJeffs183768@ByzantineBulker@bannedpastor Right because Google Gemini fast mode has the exclusive definition of words. Also it literally says OR. He was rejecting the latter definition being applied. Y’all are so desperate
@AshJanos22@HorroMaster13@TheCinesthetic Not sure what you mean. I think john going to live amongst the free folk exiled from the land that he nobly saved multiple times is a very compelling ending. Bran as king feels like the most reasonable resolution for the throne
@HorroMaster13@TheCinesthetic Rewatched Game of Thrones recently. Can’t remember why I felt the ending was bad at the time I thought it was great this time around
@jaydyer As if all of the Catholic apologists band together to publicly grieve when our Orthodox brothers fall victim to our own terrorist events like in Syria or Palestine or Dagestan…
I’m as big a fan of Jay as anyone. He played an integral role in my evangelization and my ongoing education. I am frustrated that he’s being mistreated by the very catechists that he’s supplying inquirers to.
That being said, yes we should not publicly call clergy slurs.
Why do I feel like I’m about to be called a piety signaler and a subversive for saying so lol
It’s troubling that a catechist would try to discredit the very apologists and clergy who played such a major role in evangelizing the people they’re now instructing to avoid them. All while failing to warn their catechumens of the literal pro-gay pro-trans heretical subversives.
What a foul double standard
I know for me anecdotally, having been attending liturgy for two years and baptized in May— more often than not, inquirers cite Jay as having played a meaningful if not integral role in them having ever visited an Orthodox parish.
Those that take issue with him should at least reach out to him privately first. But they never seem to be interested in that.
Same goes for Frs. Moses and Peter
I am once again honored to have an OCA parish warn its new converts, who come to the Church oftentimes by my work as the OCA admits, to then immediately beware of me. LOL Ironically the OCA promotes the grifting fake Roots of Orthodoxy channel which *isn’t* Orthodox, but actual Orthodox are bad
It’s strange to stick a proclivity for a particular sin among totally amoral traits.
Imagine saying “we accept everyone regardless of gender, those tempted to steal, race, social status…”
Not one of us “orthobros” would ever make someone who is repenting of a proclivity for homosexuality feel unwelcome in the hospital of the church. It’s people who come in to scandalize and subvert the flock that we reject. If someone was coming in justified in their thievery or pushing their pro-thief ideology I would hope they feel welcomed as a person to come be treated in the hospital together with us but not that that behavior is welcomed at all.