It’s so fascinating how the SEVENTEEN members’ personalities make SO much sense when you take into considerstion their birth order in their own families:
Hoshi, DK, Seungkwan - all have older sisters
Jeonghan, Mingyu, Vernon - all have younger sisters
Jun, Wonwoo, Dino - all have younger brothers
S.Coups - has an older brother
Joshua, Woozi, The8 - all are only children
The eldest in SEVENTEEN is the youngest in his family, the youngest in SEVENTEEN is the eldest in his family, and the middle child of SEVENTEEN is an only child in his family 🥹
Full clip of CARATs doing the SEVENTEEN fanchants at Fandom Stage!
They did the fanchants to Hot, Left & Right, Getting Closer, Super, and God of Music.
The way all the fandoms acknowledged the difficulty level 🥲 It was really strict too, you get marked wrong if you miss the beat, if you chant out of turn, or if even one of you gets it wrong when you chant together.
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I try my best to keep this space free from fanwars I'm just an individual account, not a fanbase. But honestly, watching people completely lack basic human empathy and decency is just exhausting.
I literally spend hours digging through articles, legal documents, and official texts to educate people and stick purely to facts, because responding with just "fuck you" doesn't actually solve anything.
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Yet after all that work(not just me,from many many accounts), all we get in return is toxic people acting like they just escaped from a mental asylum.
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I love this take so much. It tells a lot about how Woozi approaches music and puts it into perspective. It’s well written.
And because of that, I miss Woozi very much too. 😞
I was missing Woozi, so I started reading his old interviews again.
I found one sentence about how he writes songs, got curious about what it actually means from a production perspective, and somehow ended up reading about songwriting workflows, vocal production and how Seventeen actually makes music.
So... let's talk about it.
The sentence that started all of this was from Woozi's 2022 Ruby interview.
He said that around 80% of his songwriting days are days when he doesn't want to put the drums down first.
Sometimes he doesn't even want to hear a bass synth.
And I went:
Okay... but WHY? 😭
At first I thought this was just a cute little “Woozi has his own way of making music” fact.
Then I started looking into what actually happens when you choose the beat, melody, guitar, piano etc. as the starting point of a song.
And suddenly I had way too many tabs open.
This is your warning it's gonna be long I'm writing this for 6 hours
There isn't one correct way to write a song.
You can start with lyrics, a melody, chords, an instrument, a vocal idea, or a beat.
One really common modern pop workflow is toplining: a producer builds a track first, then a songwriter creates the melody, lyrics and vocal idea over it.
And honestly, beat-first production makes perfect sense.
If you already have the drums, bass, chords, tempo and groove, you've already created a musical environment.
Now the question becomes:
“What melody belongs in this world?”
But rhythm isn't neutral.
Drums establish pulse, accents, subdivision, syncopation and groove. Bass also connects the rhythmic and harmonic sides of a track.
So when you put them down first, they immediately start influencing how the melody develops.
Again: not bad. Just a choice.
And this is what made Woozi's comment interesting to me.
He's not saying:
“Drums are bad.”
He's saying:
“I don't want them deciding what the song is too early.”
If you delay the rhythm section, you can work on melody, harmony and emotion before locking the song into a particular groove.
And Ruby is a very literal example.
Woozi said he started working on it with Kitae from PRISM FILTER and BUMZU around an acoustic guitar.
He wanted to start from the emotion of the song rather than immediately building a huge production around it.
The Korean interview makes this especially clear.
And I REALLY like that distinction.
He's not saying acoustic instruments are somehow “more authentic” or that computers ruin music.
The point is more like:
protect the emotional idea before the production gets complicated.
Once you understand that, the drum comment makes much more sense.
Because then production becomes:
“I have this musical/emotional idea. What does it need?”
rather than:
“I have this beat. What melody can I fit into it?”
Neither is inherently better.
They're just different starting points.
And then I found the part that made this much more interesting for Seventeen specifically.
Woozi isn't producing for one vocalist.
He's producing for thirteen people.
Different timbres, ranges, resonance, diction, phrasing, strengths and weaknesses.
So the person singing the melody actually changes the way the melody works.
Woozi has talked about this directly.
When a member asks how they should sing a part, he first explains how he imagined it.
Then he listens to their takes.
And after hearing them, he can tell what kind of sound suits that member best.
If it's different from his original idea?
He changes his idea.
And honestly... that's a BIG production decision.
Because there is a difference between:
“Make the singer reproduce my demo.”
and:
“Let me hear what this singer does with my composition.”
The second approach allows the performer to give the producer new information.
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