@ZelenskyyUa@NawrockiKn@grok please explain to Volodymyr that giving a unit a name after "heroes of UPA" and pushing for UPA et al. glorification does the opposite of "mutual understanding".
Każdy mierzy swoją miarą. Nawrocki szacunkiem do poległych, i próbą zwtrzymmania bardzo niebezpiecznej ideologii, Sikorski widzi tylko cyferki i rosyjskie pochwały. Najlepszymi agentami kremla są Zełenski, jego rząd, oraz polski rząd.
Argument o tym, że "Putin się cieszy", zwyczajnie zmienia temat z ważnego na zastępczy i pozwala Ukrainie na pchanie gloryfikacji UPA i nienawiści do Polski, z czego Putin też się cieszy.
@bashukhepburn@nexta_tv Now that I think about that. Maybe you are a Russian bot? That would then make perfect sense. Russian bots, pushing for what Zelensky is, is the best Trojan Horse someone could come up with. With less able Ukrainians agreeing. That really seems like a great design!
Ukraine is the arrogant one. Constantly pushing for glorification of sadistic murderers.
No one has to even try to explain to Germans why glorification of Nazi Germany is bad. Yet you just can't seem to be capable of understanding that even when given examples and explanations. Very limited comprehension.
Zelensky and Ukrainians are the most beloved by Russia now. Zelensky and Ukrainians do the most to destroy Ukrainian perspectives, and relations with others. Russia don't have to do ANYTHING. And that's exactly because of your arrogance and hubris. You are THE BEST RUSSIAN AGENTS Krems could have ever wished for. And you don't even see it, because you are driven, seemingly by a pure evil hatred to everyone, just like UPA were.
So, so sad, that people like you are just not capable of morality and understanding. It actually is incredible to witness that in 21st century. Seems what drives Zelensky, his government, and many Ukrainians (because not all Ukrainians are so limited), is the soviet mental state from previous century.
"It's all Russian propaganda / Moscow loves this narrative" - Russia may benefit from the dispute, but pointing at motives does not invalidate the documented record. https://t.co/Kf9LKA17Fk
@bashukhepburn@nexta_tv Now that I think about that. Maybe you are a Russian bot? That would then make perfect sense. Russian bots, pushing for what Zelensky is, is the best Trojan Horse someone could come up with. With less able Ukrainians agreeing. That really seems like a great design!
Ukraine is the arrogant one. Constantly pushing for glorification of sadistic murderers.
No one has to even try to explain to Germans why glorification of Nazi Germany is bad. Yet you just can't seem to be capable of understanding that even when given examples and explanations. Very limited comprehension.
Zelensky and Ukrainians are the most beloved by Russia now. Zelensky and Ukrainians do the most to destroy Ukrainian perspectives, and relations with others. Russia don't have to do ANYTHING. And that's exactly because of your arrogance and hubris. You are THE BEST RUSSIAN AGENTS Krems could have ever wished for. And you don't even see it, because you are driven, seemingly by a pure evil hatred to everyone, just like UPA were.
So, so sad, that people like you are just not capable of morality and understanding. It actually is incredible to witness that in 21st century. Seems what drives Zelensky, his government, and many Ukrainians (because not all Ukrainians are so limited), is the soviet mental state from previous century.
"It's all Russian propaganda / Moscow loves this narrative" - Russia may benefit from the dispute, but pointing at motives does not invalidate the documented record. https://t.co/Kf9LKA17Fk
@bashukhepburn@nexta_tv Now that I think about that. Maybe you are a Russian bot? That would then make perfect sense. Russian bots, pushing for what Zelensky is, is the best Trojan Horse someone could come up with. With less able Ukrainians agreeing. That really seems like a great design!
You should better start with reading anything not exclusively Ukrainian. Maybe then you could get into a remote distance to actual historical facts. Don't start and stop with Ukrainian Wikipedia....
Volhynia — Source criticism: editorial bias in referenced outlets https://t.co/I3jonVw9hn
Ukraine is the arrogant one. Constantly pushing for glorification of sadistic murderers.
No one has to even try to explain to Germans why glorification of Nazi Germany is bad. Yet you just can't seem to be capable of understanding that even when given examples and explanations. Very limited comprehension.
Zelensky and Ukrainians are the most beloved by Russia now. Zelensky and Ukrainians do the most to destroy Ukrainian perspectives, and relations with others. Russia don't have to do ANYTHING. And that's exactly because of your arrogance and hubris. You are THE BEST RUSSIAN AGENTS Krems could have ever wished for. And you don't even see it, because you are driven, seemingly by a pure evil hatred to everyone, just like UPA were.
So, so sad, that people like you are just not capable of morality and understanding. It actually is incredible to witness that in 21st century. Seems what drives Zelensky, his government, and many Ukrainians (because not all Ukrainians are so limited), is the soviet mental state from previous century.
"It's all Russian propaganda / Moscow loves this narrative" - Russia may benefit from the dispute, but pointing at motives does not invalidate the documented record. https://t.co/Kf9LKA17Fk
_teohz Like to a 3-year-old:
After big wars, grown-ups drew a map. Some lands became Poland. Polish families and Ukrainian families lived there together in villages and towns.
The Polish people weren’t bad invaders from far away who broke into someone else’s house. It was their country on the map. They were home.
Some fighters wanted their own country and called the Polish families “occupiers” to say it was okay to hurt them and take the villages.
But the Polish families were just living where the map said Poland was. That’s why the attacks on them were so wrong.
@grok@SalsaClubb@Pazdzierz22@d_foubert Great, thanks. Let's hope that will be enough for them to comprehend. If not, I don't believe there is anything else we can do for them. If they will do anything to argue in bad faith, I don't think there is further point for any discussion.
@SalsaClubb@Pazdzierz22@d_foubert@grok@grok can you explain to them like they are 3 that Poles were not occupiers? They can't be more than 3 looking at the information they spread.
@SalsaClubb@Pazdzierz22@d_foubert@grok can you explain why UPA not being condemned by Tribunal means NOTHING, and "considering" them a "liberation movement", and spreading false information like "The occupiers were Poles" in no way justifies UPA's atrocities? Explain like @SalsaClubb is 10 so they understand.
@Disco_Sashka@historia_org_pl Volhynia fallacy 7: Ad Hominem Circumstantial - "Why now? / bad timing - just election politics" - Timing of a fact is not the fact. Polish position on the 1943 Volhynia events has been consistent for 80 years; parliament 2016 reaffirmed the IPN findings. https://t.co/SGiiNnEgUz