@sugarwatersB@Hard_Tortoise@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson requires swearing citizenship under penalty of perjury, backed by SSA and DHS database checks.
The real issue is that no standard ID proves citizenship. So our choice is either robust backend database verification, or making 21 million American citizens hunt down physical
@crihgst@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson Just because you and I have time doesn’t mean everyone else does. People have jobs sometimes multiple jobs, kids, and bills. They aren’t planning on traveling abroad so why worry about getting a passport? 77 cases isn’t going to change an election let’s be honest. 21M people will
@crihgst@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson Right, everyone can go do it but not everyone has the time for it. It requires to take time off and money. I just don’t think because of 77 cases in 24 years we should change how we do things. That’s the bigger thing. I’m for voter ID and people who are here illegally shouldn’t
@crihgst@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson The mid term elections are this year. lets say they pass that bill before midterms you think all these 21M people would be able to get their birth certificate or passport if they don’t have one? It takes time, I can’t just go to the post office and have my passport this afternoon
@crihgst@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson I get that and I am with you on that but they still have a right to vote you, you and I won’t be able to do nothing about that. And that 21M people that won’t be eligible to vote is not just people in the 80s or higher. It’s people from all ages.
@crihgst@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson A veteran in his 80s whose birth certificate is in a courthouse 3 states away isnt stupid. The document costs money and weeks to replace. You rather get ride of 21M+ voters and worry about 77 cases in 24 YEARS. I’m fine with voter ID. Im not fine with “prove it or lose your vote”
@Hard_Tortoise@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson holders with federal SAVE verification. That loophole got closed a year ago.
So if the concern is “a license doesn’t prove citizenship,” the fix is require REAL ID. That’s reasonable and most people clear it. The bill instead requires a birth certificate or passport
@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson Brennan Center estimates 21M+ eligible citizens don’t have those handy. Hits married women whose name doesn’t match their birth certificate, plus rural and elderly voters hardest. Meanwhile noncitizen voting: 77 cases in 24 years.Big burden, tiny problem. That’s the objection.
@Forthehorde187@CameronSmi51230@bennyjohnson Most Dems aren’t against voter ID — ~80% of Americans support it, including a majority of Democrats. The fight is over what this specific bill requires.
It’s not “show your license.” It’s documentary proof of citizenship — birth certificate or passport.