@DaStraatosphere@mayohiga1 Not true. My 2nd cried nonstop. Worse, if we let him cry, his trachea would collapse and he’d turn grey, eyes rolling up, and look dead until his body reset.
His body fixed a heap of arteries that were improperly wired. I’m glad we didn’t operate, but his 1st year was torture.
@mayohiga1 Nope. I have always hated the sound of children crying. Especially my own. The parent of a crying child is more miserable than you are. You listen to it wail with no responsibility to fix it.
A parent is responsible and accountable but still unable to stop everyone’s torture
@pinkheretic Men:
Consent to sex is consent to whatever she chooses to do with a pregnancy
If shes’s well informed w/ contraceptives, there’s about a 1 in 100 chance of pregnancy, so you’re good
If she is in the 1% that gets pregnant, you’re ok with abortion or paying for a child for 20yrs
@_nomadic_soul Pregnancy is torture, even when you want a child. Imagine the torture if you don’t want a child.
It’s even more hellacious if you want a child and discover sex is unlikely to make you pregnant, and then you discover that God likes to make women spontaneously abort the pregnancy.
@Thiohna I mean, talk to her about what happened. Who did this to her and her choices, but…
A 12/13 year old is very likely to have lifelong disabilities from carrying a pregnancy to term. You’d be an abusive parent to recommend she keep it.
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic No. A vast majority of abortions are flushing foreign cells out of her body before they are able to survive on their own. She stopped letting them leavh calcium out of her bones and iron from her blood.
No one kills 9m fetuses. Those are induced and often live outside just fine.
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic I did not say that. I said in our society, you are not required to risk your body to save it.
Ex: a child needs a blood transfusion and you’re the only match near enough to save them. You refuse, so the child dies.
You’re not guilty under our laws. Why would a woman be guilty?
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic You’ve been arguing the point at which our laws declare it a child with rights.
Most human societies and religions consider that time to be either after it is born or when a fetus is viable outside of the mother.
The vast majority of abortions occur way before either of those.
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic No, of course not. A child has legal rights under our laws. But, you are not obligated to take on risk or to give part of your body to save it. If you do nothing and it dies, you may be tried for negligence or such, but if you show risk to your own body, you might get not guilty.
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic The newborn can live with someone else if she’s unavailable. The fetus and zygote cannot.
You’re talking about when we, as a society, consider this a person worthy of legal rights. For most of history, that has been around the time we can be reasonably sure it’ll survive infancy
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic It’s not a child until it can live without draining or harming her body. ~95% of abortion is removing a clump of cells that might become a child from her body, not killing it first.
If you feel so strongly, don’t put your sperm in a woman who disagrees. Maybe talk to her before?
@pinkheretic Reminds me of my favorite joke:
3 religious leaders arguing about when life begins.
First 2: discus the wide variety of religious opinions and the evolution of the concept of “soul”.
Third: my wife and I know this for a fact. Life begins when the dog dies and the kids move out.
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic It takes two, as you say. So both must be ok with the risks.
She’s got contraceptive choices (maybe), which reduce the risk of pregnancy to 1%. She can abort if that 1% happens to her (it’s not a baby).
If he doesn’t like that outcome, he can keep his sperm away from her egg.
@JoyceCarolOates If they have a problem with social security as an entitlement, then they can give us all back the $ that we and our employers paid. They would, of course, need to also pay us the gains that $ would have made us if invested in the stock exchange. Any indexed fund is fine.
@RogerSeheult I’ll take my chances with a small expedition vessel that teaches me things about penguins over what is essentially a big party bus full of people who don’t care about the destinations
@delilahmused@amydiehl Yikes! No!!
I found it painful and humiliating. Made me loathe my baby, but I was determined to give him the best by breastfeeding.
Then I discovered pumping and bottle feeding 100%. Way better!
2nd child - pediatrician told me to stop breastfeeding and treat my own illness
@ftmetalhead Bras
Everyone talks about the relief of removing them when we get home, but we wear them because we are told we have to (and because large boobs hurt during our daily activities).
Heels. Make up. Skirts. Corsets. Nylons.
So, most women face this question daily.
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic However, your logic does implicate the man 100%.
“Doesn’t matter if you meant to hit a tree when you pulled the trigger”
The woman can do her best to keep her eggs away from the sperm, but the man is the one who sent them there. She shouldn’t be tortured if protection failed.
@FridgeGames101@pinkheretic By your logic, I consented to a car crash when I got into the car.
Without contraception, sex results in a baby about 15% of the time.
A full year of regular sex has only an 85% chance of pregnancy when a married couple really tries.
Drops to <1% if they try to prevent it.