The interesting thing about business, it's not like the Olympics. You don't get any extra points for the fact that something's very hard to do. So you might as well just step over one-foot bars, instead of trying to jump over seven-foot bars. -Warren Buffett
@Alien_AV@phl43 Somewhat true.
However the power they’re “projecting” isn’t their own. We have built Israel up to become disproportionately powerful.
If we cut all financial, military, and diplomatic aid, Israel would be fucked.
Israel doesn’t have a realistic option to ignore us.
@MaxAbrahms Lol. We oppose the sale of weapons that have enabled Israeli to become bellicose and aggressively pro-war.
They are a small country and should not be able to project wildly disproportionate power to their actual capabilities.
We’re done propping them up.
@vibeocracy@WestsideLAGuy If you think you have to be from LA to see how bad things have gotten here over the last number of years, you’re a moron.
Whether you’re a moron from LA or not, you’re a moron.
@Jefffeldman@itamarbengvir I respect your opinion overall. But it’s so Israel-centric that it feels like I’m debating a foreign citizen that has very little respect or concern for America, or any other country for that matter.
@Jefffeldman@itamarbengvir You literally just called Hezbollah an ‘Iranian militia group’, then immediately claimed attacking them has nothing to do with the Iran war/MOU.
You can’t have it both ways; and the fact you’re insisting on it makes this pointless to continue. Right?
@DesertArizona@Pro__Trading That perspective is so lacking in nuance as to be completely useless. Dig deeper, question those ridiculously simplistic priors…
I was laughing at this because it's such a crazy take that it borders on the comical, but it's a perfect illustration of the totally warped discourse on Israel's security predicament I was talking about in March, which is based on insane threat inflation and completely disconnected from reality.
The Israelis pretend that Hezbollah poses an existential threat to them and prevents the residents of northern Israel from returning to their homes, but the truth is that if the IDF withdrew from Lebanon and observed the ceasefire with Hezbollah, the residents of northern Israel could return to their homes tomorrow.
There is not a single person whether in the Israeli or the US government, not a single one, who doesn't know that to be true. Of course, this would only be a temporary solution and eventually Hezbollah would go back to firing the occasional rocket at Israel, but what Israel is doing right now isn't going to lead to a permanent solution either and it's threatening the entire world economy.
The Israelis and their supporters are pretending that the rocket attacks by Hezbollah are somehow an existential threat, but we're talking about a handful of attacks a year that almost never killed anyone and caused minimal disruption. Islamist terrorist attacks have caused way more deaths in France during the past 15 years and it's not even close.
I know people will reply that it's not the same thing because Hezbollah has tens of thousands of missiles targeted at Israel, so the potential threat is much larger, but even putting aside the fact that a lot of those missiles have now been destroyed France and other European countries have had nuclear missiles targeted at them for decades and they have been doing just fine.
Now people will retort that it's not the same thing because Hezbollah is a "terrorist" organization led by religious fanatics, which somehow makes it more unpredictable and prone to irrational behavior than Russia, but Hezbollah's actual behavior historically belies that claim. Again, that's just dumb propaganda, not even Israeli national security officials believe that nonsense.
The truth is that Israel has been living with Hezbollah on its borders for decades and it's been doing fine, but we're supposed to believe that it magically turned into an existential threat that Israel can't possibly live after October 7, even though it has become much weaker since then and it has become much harder for Iran to supply it since Assad was overthrown in Syria.
Both Iran and the US want to end the war, but the world economy is threatened with disaster because the Israelis and their supporters have memed themselves into believing that Israel, a nuclear power with the support of the world's superpower that is surrounded by semi-failed states and facing a bunch of glorified militias, is somehow in a uniquely precarious security predicament and this somehow justifies risking a global recession and making deranged genocidal statements.
@DesertArizona@Pro__Trading Their loyalty is to themselves and destroying many of their neighbors because they want to redesign the region they moved to. And they use the US alliance only to forward their own goals, not help us. You appear to have no idea what’s going on. Wake up.
@KathrynPaisner@DCDOTC@mattyglesias Lol. Highly suspect Israeli support/“intelligence” helped get the US into Iraq and Iran, foolishly.
NATO allies helped us fight in the Middle East after 9/11, not Israelis.
Israel very obviously benefits more, using the US as a backstop for its warmongering. Never again.
@avidseries I would say AIPAC is the only org that so clearly claims to be acting in the interest of Americans, while often doing the exact opposite.
They have warped the convo so much it’s basically: “anything good for Israel must be good for America, so we support Israel agenda first”
@esotouric@00__Kelvin@la_dorkout If you say 100% tree protection is more important than safe park access for the community, I don’t think you’re a rational actor within this scenario.
Try harder to find workable ways to protect the trees (as you did before), not merely blocking the fence.
@esotouric@00__Kelvin@la_dorkout LA already has an extreme amount of “process” and is a large part of why we can’t get things done: housing (regulations), crime (enforcement restrictions), etc.
More “process” is the enemy of functionality.
Safe park access is more important than 100% tree protection. Agree?
@Jefffeldman@itamarbengvir And if you want to digress, and try explain why Israel is so uniquely vulnerable and deserving of having the “peace” it wants at a high cost to global stability, this is my perspective:
I was laughing at this because it's such a crazy take that it borders on the comical, but it's a perfect illustration of the totally warped discourse on Israel's security predicament I was talking about in March, which is based on insane threat inflation and completely disconnected from reality.
The Israelis pretend that Hezbollah poses an existential threat to them and prevents the residents of northern Israel from returning to their homes, but the truth is that if the IDF withdrew from Lebanon and observed the ceasefire with Hezbollah, the residents of northern Israel could return to their homes tomorrow.
There is not a single person whether in the Israeli or the US government, not a single one, who doesn't know that to be true. Of course, this would only be a temporary solution and eventually Hezbollah would go back to firing the occasional rocket at Israel, but what Israel is doing right now isn't going to lead to a permanent solution either and it's threatening the entire world economy.
The Israelis and their supporters are pretending that the rocket attacks by Hezbollah are somehow an existential threat, but we're talking about a handful of attacks a year that almost never killed anyone and caused minimal disruption. Islamist terrorist attacks have caused way more deaths in France during the past 15 years and it's not even close.
I know people will reply that it's not the same thing because Hezbollah has tens of thousands of missiles targeted at Israel, so the potential threat is much larger, but even putting aside the fact that a lot of those missiles have now been destroyed France and other European countries have had nuclear missiles targeted at them for decades and they have been doing just fine.
Now people will retort that it's not the same thing because Hezbollah is a "terrorist" organization led by religious fanatics, which somehow makes it more unpredictable and prone to irrational behavior than Russia, but Hezbollah's actual behavior historically belies that claim. Again, that's just dumb propaganda, not even Israeli national security officials believe that nonsense.
The truth is that Israel has been living with Hezbollah on its borders for decades and it's been doing fine, but we're supposed to believe that it magically turned into an existential threat that Israel can't possibly live after October 7, even though it has become much weaker since then and it has become much harder for Iran to supply it since Assad was overthrown in Syria.
Both Iran and the US want to end the war, but the world economy is threatened with disaster because the Israelis and their supporters have memed themselves into believing that Israel, a nuclear power with the support of the world's superpower that is surrounded by semi-failed states and facing a bunch of glorified militias, is somehow in a uniquely precarious security predicament and this somehow justifies risking a global recession and making deranged genocidal statements.
@esotouric@00__Kelvin@la_dorkout You’re hung up on preservation.(which I agree is important).
The fundamental issue is making the park safe and usable for locals (not a drug market for outsiders).
Preserving decades of park disorder for the trees is an unacceptable trade off.
Figure out the contractor stuff
@esotouric@00__Kelvin@la_dorkout Then petition for better contractors. I’ll help support. Don’t imply that a fence necessarily hurts trees. Especially when that also implies the status quo in MacArthur park is acceptable. It’s not.
@esotouric@00__Kelvin@la_dorkout Who’s killing heritage trees?
A fence is a boundary for access control (safety), hours of operation (off hour maintenance), barrier to unfettered criminality (deter drug sellers/users and vagrants).
It’s not permanent, but can facilitate a huge vibe shift the park needs.