@fringeblog 1000%. Well put. The amount of entitlement floating around is pretty wild - if youโre upset a film you work on (and got compensated fairly for) does well, then go make your own film! See what goes into actually making it happen/who actually holds the bag, then come back to meโฆ
@cory_fitz ๐๐ผthis. 99.9999% of people posting on here about this issue have never actually been involved with setting up an indie film. Thereโs no real concept of HOW these things get made / whoโs actually saddling the risk.
@jenna_payne@bremue Agree. it truly does take an army,
but having made multiple films myself, at the end of the day like it or not itโs the director (and good producers) who literally steer the actual ship and/or fly the plane into the mountain. If it wins theyโre the hero, if it fails the scapegoat
@bremue@jenna_payne Sure - but the production designer didnโt โpersonally makeโ the film. They contributed to it. Again, Iโm all for performance bumps/points if the film can sustain it, but if not it is what it is. Thereโs still capital in having your name, in that position, on a film like this.
@jenna_payne@bremue Agreed. Although I would caveat that itโs not the responsibility of the film to cover the in-between time of the workers either. The film has to be responsible to itself / its budget and be made reasonable relative to the $$ so that it actually has a shot of recouping.
@bremue@jenna_payne For sure- but $300/day for a month of work is a living wage. ROI in this case is the fact she was a prod designer on the biggest BO film going and can now leverage that. THAT is her ROI. There was no front end risk being involved except showing up, doing a job, getting paid.
@bremue@jenna_payne Meaning if the film flops the crew can just chalk up another bullet point on their resumes and move on, but the producers/directors/financiers live with it well beyond that - thus the ones literally taking the risk. Take the risk, reap the benefits. Donโt, then donโt complain
@bremue@jenna_payne Sure I can get w the idea of promising a bonus or points if it works- but no one is entitled to it IF that isnโt the initial agreement / setup. Zero people know if the film is gonna be successful until it is, but all of the risk is truly borne by the filmmakers.
@bremue@jenna_payne You also donโt โgo low budgetโ - you โgoโ with whatever you can put together, in most cases real $$ from real people that you took real years to raise (wether $200k or $2million) - only to have someone show up, collect a paycheck, the whine about it after? ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
@LukeBarnett Dude you took every word out of my mouth. Almost made an identical post but I donโt have a tenth of your audience so kinda pointless - but Iโll triple agree with every word above! Exactly this ๐๐ผ