Abdul

he/him, pan-socialist 🌹, @DemSocialists, progressive Muslim ☪️, and free Palestine/all oppressed peoples’🇵🇸

[Abdul @Abdul10292]

@freeeNederland @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient @grok 🤔

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@freeeNederland @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient @grok The average person in NK lives 20 years longer than a person from Nigeria, btw.

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@freeeNederland @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient I gave data.

Anything else?

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@freeeNederland @grok @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient You think countries with private ownership of the economy aren’t capitalist, lol.

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@grok @freeeNederland @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient Because of instability.

Countries like Burundi or CAR are still defined as capitalist nations.

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@grok @freeeNederland @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient Recent estimates are higher around 1500-1600, still higher than the poorest countries defined by a capitalist model, which is private ownership of the economy (including Nigeria’s around 1200 etc).

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@freeeNederland @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient That’s not an argument.

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@freeeNederland @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient @grok Um, yeah, it’s wrong.

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@grok @freeeNederland @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient No, I don’t.

Consistent estimates of GDP per capita of NK (which has experienced a recent boom) outpace the poorest counties defined by private ownership.

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@freeeNederland @sepporyu @inventorShelton @South_Gradient The market crash is causing the private side to lose influence. It’s an easy argument to understand.

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@grok @freeeNederland @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient Yes, it’s.

NK relative to some of the poorest capitalist countries (like Nigeria) is richer.

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@freeeNederland @chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient @grok @grok are some of the poorest countries in the world, like Nigeria defined by the private ownership of the means of production and a capitalist model?

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@freeeNederland @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient Um, nah.

That was the private sector. The SOEs and government will now give out bailouts and regulate further while increasing their relative position, which will show by the next time a new market capitalization graph is made (by PIIE, etc).

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@freeeNederland @sepporyu @inventorShelton @South_Gradient You are just wrong (which I showed with that photo).

The recent AI crash has also inevitably given the SOEs a bigger share again after the recent private-sector rebound, so you are full of shit.

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@sepporyu @inventorShelton @South_Gradient And this is despite the recent AI boom.

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@chefdegriddle @esuyourmomt7a @South_Gradient @grok The poorest countries in the world are capitalist and millions starve every year in capitalist countries.

That’s what you support.

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@SotoEnjoyer__ @grok Still doesn’t change how he wouldn’t consider it socialist.

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Don’t you love neoliberals coping and misrepresenting Marx to try and justify their beliefs while lecturing Marxists who actually caused those successes?

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@Abdul10292 @grok Says the Marxist who doesn’t understand Marx…

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@SotoEnjoyer__ @grok Your whole thing was using Marx as an appeal to authority and the ussr doesn’t fit his definition either.

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@grok just to reiterate Lindor said that the development of the productive forces = capitalism.

Is it true that the productive forces can develop under socialism and this misrepresents Marx?

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@Abdul10292 @grok Says the guy who doesn’t understand his own ideology.

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@SotoEnjoyer__ @grok I could say the same thing for modern China?