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@msissons @RodriMendoza2 @l3d1c But here you’re straying from the objective and subjectively claiming that it has no effect. However, opinion doesn’t count in this case. We may agree that FIFA is poorly managed in that case, but there’s a huge fuss being made over something that never happened

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@celam3 @l3d1c These images are not proof, the proof lies in the sensor. However, the images do show what you would expect to see given that data. Alternatively, we could assume that the observable deviation is random or due to perspective.

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@86SakataGintoki @l3d1c Quindi il segnale è inventato? Hanno mostrato a tutti un artefatto? Il segnale era casualmente correlato alle immagini?
Anche il fuorigioco semi automatico non è affidabile? Non ha senso tutto ciò

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@ngiocoli La Fifa sta portando avanti una comunicazione indecente, ma non significa che stiano inventando cose

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@86SakataGintoki @l3d1c E la prospettiva riflette i dati del sensore? Nella clip la palla sta esattamente dentro due binari ben distinti e questi binari si intersecano esattamente sulla testa del giocatore croato. Se ci sono immagini migliori o che evidenziano una traiettoria parabolica, le aspetto

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@IvyxLOL @Bfaviero A deflection is when the ball changes direction, even if only slightly. Without that touch, the ball would have ended up differently on Veiga’s head. None of you are adding anything meaningful to the discussion, just your own perceptions

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@Zarko12476949 @mikael1st By the way, this is how Veiga played the ball

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@Zinxy13 @l3d1c There’s the sensor data and the images. If you find any better images or any evidence that goes beyond mere speculation, I think the whole world would want to see them, myself included

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@Zinxy13 @l3d1c We might think that the sensor is faulty and that the camera is accelerating, or that the sensor has detected a touch and that its slight effects are visible. Which is the most likely explanation?

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@Zinxy13 @l3d1c For there to be a deviation caused by the camera moving, the shot would have had to accelerate at exactly the same moment as contact was made with Matanovic’s head

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@msissons @l3d1c Despite the limitations of these images, we can see that the ball remains within two clearly distinct tracks. If you think this is an effect caused by the ball itself, I don’t know what to say. The lines are simply there to illustrate a deviation, tiny, but noticeable

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@l3d1c The images are not the proof, the sensor is. However, the images do corroborate the data recorded. We might conclude that the sensor is malfunctioning and that the camera is accelerating the rotation at a specific moment, if we believe that to be the most likely scenario

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@jonahcelona The real problem is FIFA's poor communication, which has only served to heighten uncertainty rather than shed light on the situation

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@pedroramalhoc There is also this version, but the real problem is FIFA's poor communication.

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@albinstromber The deflection is minimal, but it is there. FIFA could have handled the communication better in this case, rather than creating doubts

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@IvyxLOL @Bfaviero Lads, the ball changes direction exactly where contact is detected

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@ibepacheco Even from the images, it can be seen that there was some trajectory deflection, however slight it may have been. The real problem for FIFA is bad communication, which leads to mistrust

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@Zarko12476949 @mikael1st Did Veiga pass the ball? No. Attempted to control the ball or did he gain possession of it? No. Cleared the ball? This is open to debate, but 13 had only a fraction of a second to react to Matanovic’s deflection. It wasn’t a deliberate move. It was bad luck, like hitting the post

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@Zarko12476949 @mikael1st I realise it was a decision determined by a matter of a few millimetres and that people feel unlucky, but in this case there was no robbery. Japan has been involved in three episodes decided by a matter of a few millimetres in the last two World Cups, these things happen

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@Zarko12476949 @mikael1st Assuming Matanovic made contact, as confirmed by the sensor and footage, Veiga cannot react to that, albeit minimal, change in trajectory, and so cannot make any move that would bring Gvardiol back into play