@ManuInvesting@DEgilsson@aseoane123 It used to be not so important, because most of the manufacturing businesses own their real estate and IFRS16 leases were relatively low. To keep using the same EBITDA metric is a mistake in my opinion, bc Carrefour EBITDA is very low quality as most of it is consumed by leases.
@ManuInvesting@DEgilsson@aseoane123 Yeah, they might acquire some more strategic assets, but it remains a lease heavy business. Which is not bad, but they should use the relevant metric and it’s not (IFRS) EBITDA. If they want to use that they should report EBITDA minus leases, just like US GAAP businesses.
@DEgilsson@aseoane123 Buying real estate also consumes cash. You said the D&A is masking the real cash generation, while I don't think that is the case. The cash consumed in investing cash flow like capex and IFRS-16 leases is real. There is not much amortisation of acquired intangibles.
@alexeliasson So you either calculate EV the way they do, but adjust the EBIT by subtracting the interest related to RMI or you keep EBIT the same, but add the RMI debt to EV. I don't know how competitors do it, but to me this EV/EBIT is not a realistic image of the valuation of the company.
@alexeliasson I looked at this and think EV/EBIT is calculated in an unrealistic way. The company reduces net debt figure by ready marketable inventory. But this debt still incurs interest.
@mathgrun@absreturnchaser He also deleted tweets about Spire Healthcare $spi.l He was very bullish because Bridgepoint and Triton terminated conversations about a possible offer.
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@secretlyaninja UK valuation discount is definitely deserved, so just buy at a discount to the discount. I got screwed so many times in the UK and yet my performance in the UK has been great over the years.
@secretlyaninja I guess OEP was firm in negotiations after the trading update and knew the arbitrage funds had no other option. Still convinced it was a good bet. But yeah another example of bad UK corp gov.
@secretlyaninja@antizykliker Board came out with a bad trading update. Have seen this a number of times in UK deals. It seems they want to put pressure on sh's to agree to the price offered. Makes you wonder what kind of incentive program was offered to them by OEP. We'll see if the special sit funds fold!
@secretlyaninja@antizykliker I also see a bump as very likely if you look at the strategies of these funds and the low EBITDA multiple the offeror has offered. Must be room for improvement and still model sufficient IRR for OEP.