I should probably introduce myself. And let people know where I stand in regards to the gospel of Jesus Christ. I want there to be no mistake.
I am Bryan Summers. I am 49 years old. I'll tell a little of my history and then bare my testimony. Below I'm on my favorite trail in the world. The Timberline Trail on Mt Hood.
@jmillinmac A few years back Daughter of Lightening announced on Twitter that she had a revelation that one of the apostles is a Judas trying to lead the church astray.
She wouldn’t say which one but that God commanded her to warn us.
She is a bit off and probably best ignored.
I would counter with this: nowhere did Christ ever command us to argue about the nature of His relationship between Himself, the Father, and the Holy Spirit. Paul actually commanded the opposite — "Avoid foolish controversies… and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless" (Titus 3:9), and "Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels" (2 Tim 2:23).
And it seems that many Christians on X spend so much time doing what Christ never commanded us to do that they never get around to doing what He actually commanded us TO do.
The LDS, in the meantime, are out there living what Christ commanded, each and every day. More than 70,000 full-time missionaries — most of them teenagers and young adults paying their own way — are knocking on doors on every continent, doing the Great Commission as a daily job rather than a debating topic. Their members fast two meals a month and give the money to feed the poor. Their bishops' storehouses, welfare farms, and humanitarian arm move well over a billion dollars a year in aid to people of every faith and none. Every member is assigned specific families to minister to and check on. Their local clergy are unpaid volunteers. They abstain, they tithe, they show up.
Christ gave us the test Himself: "By their fruits ye shall know them" (Matt 7:20). He did not say, "By their metaphysics ye shall know them."
So who is actually following Christ?
@Joeray@PTSPentax You wanna know what I think?
All right, you asked for it.
I think you’re a pretty smart fella, and it sounds like you’ve come to some pretty good conclusions that make sense to you.
I wish you peace in that journey
@Joeray@PTSPentax I appreciate you trying to teach an old chunk of coal like myself.
But I know how this will go.
You’ll walk me through some scriptures and I’ll be, “so that’s how Joseph Ray looks at it.”
And you’ll be disappointed that l’m not really moved. We can just skip to that part.
@PTSPentax@Joeray Indeed . The Torah is scripture from a God who doesn’t lie. Whether that means I agree with your conclusions - I dunno. I don’t know you
@PTSPentax@Joeray Those who want to convince the LDS the BoM is false have their work cut out for them.
Especially if the LDS member has received an answer from the Holy Ghost.
They are left to mock. Call it heartburn or something. but I know what I experienced.
It wasn’t heart burn.