@Invictussoldeus@chipMFdubbo Also the Enlightenment was only originally somewhat pro-slavery, but it planted seeds for its abolition, perhaps with the help of Christianity, but Christianity itself didn't abolish it.
See Lev. 25:44-46
If Christianity were so great, why did it suck for the first ≈1700 years?
@Invictussoldeus@chipMFdubbo What I thought I clearly enough implied is that western values came about due to the mixture of Judeo-Christianity, Enlightenment thought, and Greek philosophical frameworks. If Christianity were so great, it wouldn't have needed them to bring about western values.
@niggaz_in_par1s@cultofnarcissus@mcsquared34 If a woman is raped, she is indeed more than justified to get an abortion, and if you were honest you would look at the percentage of raped women who get abortions and not the percentage of abortions sought due to rape. This doesn't apply to late term abortions. False analogy.
@IamNoticer88@ChooseGoodKarma Everyone with even a years-behind grasp on current events knows and is mad that Israel is committing a genocide. You don't give a fuck about genocide, though. You're just mad that the weapon of genocide isn't in your hands; I mean, you're literally a nazi, I know what 88 means
@chipMFdubbo Also, Rome, with close ties to Greek philosophy, and therefore by extension some ties to western values, already outlawed human sacrifice in 97 BCE
@chipMFdubbo If Christianity were so great, it would've created these values, and arguably better values, in a vacuum. It wouldn't have needed the Enlightenment, nor Greek philosophy, to guide it in the right direction.
@DirkTWT_@Yayay82827@chipMFdubbo I love that part. The all loving God letting his people stoop to the levels of evil baby killers, which totally doesn't mean he commanded evil. After all, those children totally inherited the sins of their Amalekite parents, right?
Oh.. I forgot about Ezk. 18:20 and Deut. 24:16..
@RailoDef@Britton04084470@mcsquared34 A fetus, especially an embryo, is not a child. It will become a child, but it is not a child.
If that's the point, that abortion is murder because it prevents a child, you'd then have to say the use of contraception and condoms are murder, because they prevent children too.
@guardingthegrid@Atomsmade Yeah yeah, what initiated the fall of mankind, genius? Was it "Adam and Eve," or was it their creator who knowingly made them stupid enough to fall for Satan's deception in the first place?
@joeburgos2@Atomsmade And why does evil and sin exist? Is it "Adam and Eve" Joe? Or is it the creator of Adam and Eve who either knowingly or unknowingly made Adam and Eve stupid enough to fall for Satan?
@guardingthegrid@Atomsmade Nope, we're acting like God, someone who apparently can, knows how to, and wants to fix everything (omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent) wouldn't be a neglectful deadbeat if he actually existed.
@TonyBob1495766@idkjustalego@JuanGiovanniNY@God_Questioner You say this as if the opposite, immortality, wouldn't crumble one's psyche. Imagine drifting deep in the absolute zero temperatures of space because you outlived the solar system, lucky if you drift past a star for its warmth ever couple near eternities. Sounds pretty pointless.
@IamNoticer88@CorpusVerum@ChooseGoodKarma "Two rich Jews were close friends, so all Jews are like them, and anyone who disagrees with my psychosis loves Epstein" ahh comment ✌😭☔