A consciousness... which is becoming more and more total. And now and then—now and then—when everything is “favorable,” it becomes the Lord's Consciousness, the Consciousness of everything, and then it's... a drop of Light. Nothing but Light.
I know that this is a time of trouble for you and everybody. It is so for the whole world. Confusion, trouble, disorder and upset everywhere is the general state of things. The better things that are to come are preparing or growing under a veil and the worse are prominent everywhere. The one thing is to hold on and hold out till the hour of light has come.
Sri Aurobindo
2-6-1946
September 28, 1963
Do you remember Savitri's debate with Death [“The Debate of Love and Death”]?... According to it, Sri Aurobindo seems to be saying that Disorder arose when Life entered Matter.
(Mother leafs through her thick translation notebook)

Quoique Dieu ait fait le monde pour Sa félicité,
Un Pouvoir ignorant en a pris charge et a semblé être Sa Volonté
[Although God made the world for his delight,
An ignorant Power took charge and seemed his Will]
In other words, that Power assumed the appearance of God's Will.
Et la profonde fausseté de la Mort a maîtrisé la Vie.
Tout devint le jeu d'un Hasard simulant le Destin.
[And Death's deep falsity has mastered Life.
All grew a play of Chance simulating Fate.]
(X.III.629)
And before, Sri Aurobindo writes:
Ô Mort, ceci est le mystère de ton règne...
[O Death, this is the mystery of thy reign.]
He seems to imply it's only on earth:
Dans le champ anormal et tragique de la terre,
Portée dans son voyage sans but par le soleil
Au milieu des marches forcées de grandes étoiles muettes,
Une obscurité occupa les champs de Dieu...
[In earth's anomalous and tragic field
Carried in its aimless journey by the sun
Mid the forced marches of the great dumb stars,
A darkness occupied the fields of God,]
(Mother repeats)
Une obscurité occupa les champs de Dieu,
Et le monde de la Matière fut gouverné par ta forme.
[A darkness occupied the fields of God,
And Matter's world was governed by thy shape.]
The shape of Death.
Ton masque a couvert la face de l'Eternel
[Thy mask has covered the Eternal's face,]
It's marvelous!
La Félicité qui fit le monde s'est endormie.
Abandonnée dans l'immensité elle sommeilla:
Une transmutation mauvaise s'empara
De ses membres jusqu'à ce qu'elle ne se reconnût plus.
[The Bliss that made the world has fallen asleep.
Abandoned in the Vast she slumbered on:
An evil transmutation overtook
Her members till she knew herself no more.]
(X.III.627)
And so on, a whole passage. And he seems to imply that it's when Life entered inert Matter that an ignorant Power... what I read at the beginning:

Un Pouvoir ignorant en a pris charge et a semblé être Sa Volonté
Et la profonde fausseté de la Mort a maîtrisé la Vie.
[An ignorant Power took charge and seemed his Will
And Death's deep falsity has mastered Life.]
Consequently, according to this, Death would exist only on the earth.
(silence)
It's more important to keep the atmosphere as limpid and transparent as possible, more important than to know in advance what's going to happen. That's my position.
End
April 18, 1970

(Mother's voice sounds increasingly frail. This conversation perhaps contains the key of everything.)
So, have you brought any questions today?
Yes, Mother; there are also a few from her [pointing to Sujata].
Start with yours, then she will speak.
I don't know if it's a “question,” but ...I don't very well understand the working of the subtle physical, or the relationship between the subtle physical and the material physical. For instance, you say that Sri Aurobindo is in the subtle physical, working to prepare the new world ...
Yes.
... and that we too, at night, through a part of our being, often work there to prepare... what is to come. How?...
Listen, your question comes at the right moment. Last night, for the first time – really the first time – it wasn't a dream, I wasn't asleep, yet there was a whole story (which I am going to tell you), and I was absolutely convinced at the time that it was something going on here (maybe not in that form, but in a similar form). Then I realized that nothing had taken place here (outwardly at least, there was no sign of it).... Giving the names bothers me; I won't tell the names, it doesn't matter. But the names were there, the people, all of it PRECISE, as it is here.
September 9, 1970
The Hell
(Mother seems very slightly better, though still quite exhausted.)
I had something to tell you, but I don't remember at all.... Maybe it'll come back.
(very long silence, then Mother gestures that she remembers and plunges in again)
It's coming, but not yet precise enough.
Do YOU have anything to ask?
Was it related to “that night,” when you were as if in hell?
Yes, it was related to that. It was... I'll try to explain. You know that OM is said to be the sound of the whole universe turned towards the Supreme, imploring the Supreme – and the result is OM. I had the impression that I was all the pain of the world – all the pain of the world (how can I put it) felt together. I don't know how to explain.
It must be that – it must be that because, before, I was dominated, you understand: when it came, I was as if crushed by the thing; whereas from the moment I understood that way, I was able to be above pain. And I am much better. But just when I said it, it was very... it even had the character of a revelation. So then, it was very precise – very precise, very concrete. Now... it's a translation, of course.
I felt, I felt at the same time something like an extraordinary Protection which prevented from going mad.... It was a VERY concrete experience for several hours: the protection of a Consciousness... a higher consciousness, and a sort of power dominating the thing, with the perception that if That weren't there, there was enough to make lots of people go mad.
But the body is very... the body is very affected (Mother touches her left eye and forehead). You see, there are...
Impossible, almost impossible to eat – especially that.
(very long, moaning silence)
That sense of being crushed hasn't gone yet.
It's like something preventing me from breathing freely.
But the night after the day I saw you, when I told you, you remember, I told you (smiling) to pray for me...
Yes, Mother.
... that night was absolutely wonderful – absolutely peaceful and wonderful. A night as I hadn't had in a long, long time.... I thanked you, I don't know if you know!
Oh, Mother....
(Mother laughs, Satprem lays his head on her knees, silence)
But Sri Aurobindo? Sri Aurobindo...
Yes.
What does he say?
(after a silence)
I had (and that was frightful), I had the consciousness of all that he suffered physically. And that was one of the things most... (Mother's voice is covered in tears) the hardest to bear. As if... physically... And our physical unconsciousness beside that, and the kind of physical TORTURE he was subjected to.1 That was one of the most difficult things, most difficult.
The torture he was subjected to, which we treated so lightly, as if... as if he felt nothing. That was one of the most frightful things.
(very long silence Mother plunges in, then gives a start)
You see, it's like this (Mother gestures as if suffocating): an Anguish weighing down, and that's terrible.
It's not in the thought, you understand (same suffocated gesture).
But Mother, this pain of the earth, isn't it to make it call the Supreme Consciousness there too, deep down?
Yes, of course. That's what I say to myself, what I try to find, but...
There is something to be found.
(very long silence)
It's like this (same gesture of suffocation), and it's still there.... There is one spot, like a spot where there is such a dreadful anguish.... Do you feel how I have difficulty breathing? – That's it. It's constant.
(silence)
It's here (Mother draws a bar across the top of her chest). It's here. And I am as if forbidden to... (Mother makes the gesture of rising to join the Origin above the head)... As if I absolutely had to find something.
(silence)2


January 14, 1963
So? Have you come with a question on these aphorisms?
There aren't many questions to ask.
I count on the question to set off the movement, because for the moment there's nothing.
More and more it's like that: I know what I must do at the time of doing it, I know what I must say at the time of saying it. I don't try, though once or twice I did try just to see—useless, nothing comes. But when it has to come, it comes as if a tap were opened—effortlessly, without my having to do anything, it just comes.
So for the moment, nothing.
Read me those aphorisms again.
81 – God's laughter is sometimes very coarse and unfit for polite ears; He is not satisfied with being Molière, He must needs also be Aristophanes and Rabelais.
82 – If men took life less seriously, they could very soon make it more perfect....
Indeed!
... God never takes His works seriously; therefore one looks out on this wonderful universe.
So what's your question?
One may ask how taking things seriously prevents life from being more perfect?
December 3, 1963
(Regarding the difficulties of certain disciples)
...But anyway, it's settling down – we are in the years of settling down. Everyone is caught by his own illusion – it's always the mirage of an illusion. She [Y.] is convinced, it is her very deep belief, that she is causing the Supermind to descend upon earth. And many, many people among those I know are caught by that illusion; so they go off at a tangent far away from the Truth, towards a “fabulous” realization.
Pride, vanity – that's the worst trap. And when they feel that sort of vital force in them [as Y. does], they believe all at once that they have caught the Thing....
The farther I go, the more I feel the opposite: I find everything poor – so very poor.
Oh, but when you are sincere and look at things straight, you find yourself frightfully poor to express what has to be expressed.
For sure!
But that's the ego's last days, the last stage. When it's gone, you are no longer anything! (Mother laughs) In other words, you don't have that feeling of being something bad or good – it's all gone. You have such a feeling of ONE existence, and all the rest... all the rest is something that has become twisted like that, twisted in the consciousness. That's becoming so concrete....
(silence)
....
THE MOTHER
AGENDA
JULY 10, 1963
...
(Satprem reads Mother a previous conversation, of May 11, in which Mother said that the true mantra is not the one given you by a guru but the mantra that wells up from within spontaneously, like the cry of your soul.)
But how is it, if the mantra automatically contains the power of the experience, that it is always said that unless you have been “given” the mantra by your guru, it has no power?
That's when you have no power of your own, naturally!
If, for example, just anybody comes to me and asks me for a mantra, I won't tell him he should find his own mantra inside....What I said there applies to those who are in contact with their soul. But those who have no conscious contact with their soul cannot find their mantra – their head will search for words, but that's nothing. I said the mantra must well up from within – but for them, nothing will well up! They won't find it. They won't find it, not a chance! So in that case, the guru passes on his own power.
Yes, but when you read a mantra in a book, for instance, it is said there's no force in it – how is that, since the vibration is there?
But if you have the power within yourself and read the book, you will get the force! (Mother laughs) What's required is the capacity to feel and make contact.
Ultimately, what does the guru do? He connects (gesture of junction), he is nothing but a link. It's not “his” power he gives you (that's what he thinks, but it's not true): he is the link. He brings you into contact with the Power – a contact you don't have without him. But those who don't need a guru will make contact WITHOUT a guru.
It's not at all like something he pulls out of his pocket and offers you! That's not it at all: it's the power to make contact.
(silence)
It's precisely because there are too many people like this that the earth is in difficulty! Too many, too many people are in the mind: mental difficulties and more mental difficulties.... You can't get through (impenetrable gesture). It's an endless process.
You know, an ardent faith, a psychic aspiration, a fervor, a self-giving, instead of being forever turned in on oneself, turned in on oneself .... A self-giving, that's what is needed to save the world!
You know, an ardent faith, a psychic aspiration, a fervor, a self-giving, instead of being forever turned in on oneself, turned in on oneself .... A self-giving, that's what is needed to save the world!
It's precisely because there are too many people like this that the earth is in difficulty! Too many, too many people are in the mind: mental difficulties and more mental difficulties.... You can't get through (impenetrable gesture). It's an endless process.