Khilona nhi hai 1 billion dollar ka quantum computer hai 2000 rupaye dekr subscription nhi milega iska , Sirf on paper maths improve krke theory se nhi hoga engineering lagegi ismai
the security budget is a genuine open problem with no agreed solution, partly because the most direct fix (tail emission) conflicts with Bitcoin’s hard cap. Most proponents bet on organic fee-market growth, while skeptics see it as a structural risk that hasn’t been resolved , there have being discussions like :
Fee market development — the optimistic base case is that block space demand (ordinals/inscriptions, L2 settlement, high-value transfers) generates sustained fee pressure
Which we all know right now seems like a failed experiment although still has a sliver of hope left maybe ?
Layer 2 settlement demand — Lightning, sidechains, and rollup-style constructions driving frequent high-value on-chain settlement which is kinda interesting given some nations have being Adopting these like El Salvador and parts of Portugal but it’s nothing burger really
Tail emission ( like monero ) being extremely contentious in Bitcoin because it breaks the 21M cap, which is near-sacrosanct culturally, so it’s very unlikely to gain traction.
@chumbawamba22@sistineresearch Oh surely , it’s going to shake a lot of things up and uncertainty is going to be a cinema to watch meanwhile , also because of the “curse of knowledge” learning curve and just too much tech heavy jargon any half baked rumour(s) can easily add more fuel to the fire
I know my passion and optimism might have oversold it and apologies if it seemed like that but the argument that nothing is happening and devs aren’t brainstorming about a plausible solution is equally an oversold statement as well
Yeah sure the lifeboat solutions are still being discussed and are definitely not yet passed or deemed actually usable yet but my only point was “bitcoin is not doing anything to go quantum proof” was also a over sell further more the timelines for how people will chose to migrate to quantum safe signatures are already being discussed right now and is sitting at more than 50% progress already done the new revised timelines are a 50% chance of a Qday by 2030 which gives it enough room
Coins stay frozen in that case as after some time network will stop accepting ECDSA signatures to validate transactions and only allow for lattice signatures which are quantum proof essentially deeming those coins “frozen” until moved so they can’t be dumped on the open market by a quantum computer and whether satoshi wants he can “unfreeze” those coins and move them to a quantum proof wallet and if he doesn’t want to do it and want to leave it idle than can sit idle because network won’t validate the ECDSA signatures
2 sets of problems , 2 sets of solutions :
Set one - people who have bitcoin stored in wallets made after 2013 are from BIP39 which all have a master string and hence all of them can submit a zk proof using the snark technology that it’s there wallet to move coins from the frozen quantum prone address type to a quantum proof address type after the soft fork
Set two - satoshi era wallets or wallets before 2013 have 2 options either to migrate coins within the 5 year window themselves to quantum proof address or they remain frozen forever which we know satoshi won’t do or can assume he won’t , since wallets can’t generate a zk proof because of lack of master string there are lifeboat solution’s being proposed which is under discussion right now which are tbh brilliant and prove that developers are putting there head where there mouth is instead of the vague claims on CT that state otherwise :
1. The Algorithmic Fingerprint (The "Patoshi Pattern")
•When Satoshi mined his first 1.1 million coins, he didn't use the standard software everyone else did. He modified his code slightly so his computer could work faster. This left a highly specific "digital fingerprint" in the code of the first 20,000 blocks—often called the Patoshi Pattern.
Even though Satoshi doesn't have a single modern master password, he might still possess the original, unedited source code or a specific mathematical "rule sheet" that dictated how that pattern was created. Developers could update Bitcoin to say: "We are freezing these coins. To claim them, you don't need a key. Instead, you must pass a secret math test proving you are the one who wrote the software that created this specific pattern back in 2009."
2. The Original Digital Blueprint (The wallet.dat Structure)
A quantum computer can only see what is public on the blockchain; it can't see the internal file structure of Satoshi’s personal 2009 computer. Developers could create an upgrade where an early user can upload a Zero-Knowledge Proof (a math trick that says "I have the file" without actually showing the file contents) of that hidden database metadata to prove they own the original file.
@chumbawamba22@sistineresearch No hard fork required tbh devs have a whole roadmap planned and it’s in final stages , post quantum signatures already being adopted