@helenstaniland Joey Barton didn't need to be trans to have access to his wife's head to kick it, did he?
And he certainly wouldn't need to trans to follow her into a woman's toilet to keep kicking it.
And yet, right now, not a hypothetical, Graham supports him.
@helenstaniland You're accusing me of hypothetically supporting the man your friend and ally actually supports, Helen.
That's the end of the argument. There's no road left.
Helen is saying that I would support the domestic abuser Graham Linehan did a podcast with if he came out as trans, but hasn't a word of criticism for Graham Linehan doing a podcast with a domestic abuser.
@helenstaniland So the logic is that Joey Barton, a man convicted of kicking his wife in the head, is to be supported as a good man and an ally unless he says he is trans and then he becomes a danger to women.
Got it. We're done here. Thanks.
@helenstaniland Thank you for retweeting the screenshot of a prominent "gender critical" leader doing a podcast with a domestic abuser.
I don't think most of the general public are aware he did that.
@helenstaniland This is very similar to your argument that if one supports trans people, they therefore support rapists or abusers.
And you do this while sitting in a movement that literally supports domestic abusers.
@helenstaniland No, I don't have a "belief," on the evidence, being trans is an innate human reality.
I saw Sinead Watson recently take a single story of a gay couple abusing a child and moving from there to making an argument that if you support gay adoption you support abuse.
@helenstaniland Anyone who gave a shit would be incensed to see their male friend do a podcast with a wife-beater, but you have continued to maintain a close association and have not challenged your friend publicly, or, I suspect, privately about it. In fact, you may be a fan of Barton.
@helenstaniland And here's the mad thing about Brand.
*After* the allegations and prosecution he was invited to the same American rallies where people talked about "eradicating transgenderism."
Because, it has nothing to do with women's safety.
And you don't give a shit about it.
Helen will try to tar people with hypotheticals, like imagining if Russell Brand were trans, but will have nothing to say about things that are actually happening, in reality, like Graham Linehan, her close friend, ally, and podcast host doing a podcast with a wife beater.
@helenstaniland Isn't it odd how you try to tar me with a hypothetical, but give your close friend a pass on championing a wife-beater in reality. Something that actually happened. Because this isn't about women's safety. That's a ruse.
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"The fracturing of society" was said by opponents of marriage equality too, who also claimed that gay people were too demanding in wanting marriage ("our word" said anti-gay activists "they can call it something else", sound familiar?) and adoption rights.
Of course it's about female spaces, and about the medicalisation of children, and the fracturing of society caused by the unreasonable demand that some madle adults be accept as women.
We won't agree to these demands.
'It could be argued that you've made women less safe' asserts a man who - had they simply said they were women - would be championing the likes of Saville or Brand into female changing rooms. The lies one has to tell as a gender ideologue must drive one a bit mad.
@GilesM4465@helenstaniland I will find the longer clip.
You should really watch these old podcasts to find out that this whole "female spaces" argument is a nonsense.
https://t.co/s6nMIFZlnw
When dealing with supreme sealion Helen Staniland and her embarrassing question, always remember the video below.
She is not the reasonable "just asking questions" individual she tries to pretend she is. She equates all trans women to fetishists