@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty Factcheck urself. Compare Allied war effort vs Gaza, not single acts. Ur picking up goalposts & scrambling around. 1st u insisted on defending law-based objection to Amnesty. Now, that's just legalese mental gymnastics, & u pretend Gaza allegation based solely on mass killing...
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty Lol, impotent pseudo-intellectual posturing. Ur not courtroom defendant . If u don't have courage or even understanding to defend claim then dont boldly enter discussion with clueless assertions. U've made no attempt to demonstrate that Gaza explained entirely by legit conduct...
@unboxpolitics Yea, the notion that solely using Google's algorithmic search engine, an engine I'm pretty sure is dependent on AI/ML/LLM-type elements, is somehow a more organic wholesome way of doing research than using an LLM with web search capabilities seems silly on its face
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty is reasonably *exhaustively* explained solely by legitimate military conduct. If that's the objection your making here, then that *is* your burden to establish.
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty Just blindly repeating jumbled framing. For umpteenth time, a military objective of defeating Hamas can coexist w/ genocidal intent, genocide can even be instrumental to defeating Hamas. What it seems ur ludicrously trying to say is that cumulative atrocity pattern I outlined...
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty which they had supreme power & authority. Meaningfully different from Allies engaging in criminal warfare against sovereign belligerent states. Such differences makes it much more difficult to characterize Allied war effort as genocidal compared to Gaza.
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty Allied conduct certainly involved monstrous acts. At same time, Gaza mass killing most likely has *at least* 4x higher civ:comb ratio than WW2 Allies. This is alongside ๐ฎ๐ฑ deliberately sustaining destructive conditions of life throughout an entire enclosed territory & pop over...
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty Yes, naturally, a main point of contention around ORI would be reasonablness. By all indications, the majority of serious scholars accept Gaza is a genocide. Regardless, what historical war efforts exactly would be unreasonably retroactively charged as genocidal?
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty destruction, mass forced displacement, aid massacres, etc. can be *reasonably* explained by legitimate military conduct without invoking atrocity crimes or existence of genocidal intent is profoundly demented and/or naive.
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty Nazi's genocidal actions *could* be explained militarily & hence were not genocidal. Theres always a flimsy military/security rationale. Similarly, ur ludicrous notion that cumulative pattern of systematically killing whole families, starvation / aid obstruction, systematic...
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty challenging strict-law-based objection one could make to Amnesty's report is whether Israel's conduct can be reasonably explained by atrocity intent *short of genocide*. But of course, many Israel defenders shy away from that angle of attack.
@StanleyPerlman@Hertsnik@ElliotMalin@amnesty say IDF had distinct conduct. Hostage operations & documented attacks on demonstrably legal targets r meaningfully diff from systematically killing whole families, starvation / aid obstruction, systematic destruction, mass forced displacement, aid massacres, etc. The actual...