@itz_Dreyy So many people judging something with no idea about the nature of the relationship or social contract they've entered. I see a man who waited until he was done being a playboy to be father, a man who has the resources and stability to pass on, and a single partner for that legacy
@Lillyvibes95 That or she, like all of us, knows what will happen and also knows the man must have reasons to restrain himself. The one standing clearly does not. She is trying to protect him, not from the vagrant, but from himself.
I see this as kind reassurance that he has nothing to prove.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 I am not going to justify her actions. That would be pandering to your desires. I've never justified her actions. All I said is that a private citizen does not have the right to have a woman held down a minute after a slap with no threat of further violence... because they don't.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 There are elements to a crime, by the way, and it is battery that constitutes the physical "assault." Reasonable apprehension is required OR offensive contact. If the threat of contact was neither (because it was invited, for example) assault does not occur. She was not charged.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 Please find the legal code that lists violence as a crime. Slapping occurs in the bedroom. Is it violence? Maybe. Kids punch each other in the arms. Is it a crime? Maybe. I am not making things up. You are. Violence in itself is not a crime, which is why she was not charged.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 Actually, we do have information about what caused it. You're the misinformed one. However, my point is it doesn't matter anyway. She didn't commit an illegal act to begin with, but even if she did, you would not have the right to detain.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 Sir, you do not determine what a criminal act is. She was not charged. He wanted her charged. The law determines what is a crime, not private citizens. Three police officers have the right to detain. Private citizens do not, especially when there is no threat of harm.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 You're wrong. Again, you WISH you had the right to bait a woman into slapping you and then having three of your goons hold her down. This is not a right. It is false imprisonment. She was walking away with her hands raised, posing no threat.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 Absolutely there is no gender issue beyond me responding to points.
You cannot hold a man down with three goons either. Just basic strawmanning on your part.
But as I mentioned before, proportionality matters, the same with children.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 Incorrect. My whole argument is that YOU don't know what happened before, so you support an illegal act. You saw a slap. A slap does not give you a right to have three men hold a woman down and falsely imprison her. As I said, you just wish it did
You're wrong. She wasn't charged
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 You have no idea what was wrong or right, which is the point. Think of the million things he could have said before that slap to justify it.
You do NOT have the right to have a gang of men hold down a woman because you bait her into slapping you.
You just WANT that right.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 If you cannot conceive of how a slap could be warranted and you cannot conceive of how giving any man anywhere the right to have three men physically hold down a woman for it, then there is no point trying to convince you.
This was wrong.
That doesn't make her right.
@PBM1wvv @STW563712 I don't care about her.
I care about a generation of people who think justice can be seen and dispensed based on a snapshot.
I care about the heart of the thousands who don't question seeing a man grinning and taking selfies while he orders a gang of men to grab and hold a woman
@kiriaini_uno@FearNoPlay @STW563712 Caveman logic: A dude does something grotesque and gets slapped once in rejection.
Proportional response: Grab her and hold her, boys.
/gang of men descends while ringleader watches with joy
Yes, I am sure this does seem proportional to you.
@kiriaini_uno@LePunter_life @STW563712 Wrong. Someone being slapped once does not give a group of private citizens the right to grab and detain someone against their will if that person is not posing an imminent threat or danger, which she wasn't.
Think about why this is important.
Stop making stuff up.
@MTinSAV @STW563712 You saw a slap, not an assault (she wasn't charged). Then you saw her walk away after a calm exchange. Then you heard him order two men to quote "hold her here". Then you saw him call to a third man to "grab her" as she calmly walked away, not threatening anyone.
(Yes, an assault
@MTinSAV @STW563712 Going "u mad bro?" doesn't make me mad. I told you. JD. I enjoy it. And it wasn't really consent: "Yea, sure." was a sarcastic response. However, the slap that ensued could not ever justify allowing three blokes to grab a woman and hold her as she is leaving the establishment.
@SunriseSoulful@CuervoVernet @STW563712 Saying that someone with a trust fund shouldn't have the right to financially bypass the tort that would result from false imprisonment isn't quite the same as jealousy, but poke at it enough and maybe it will land. ;)
Like I said, I support the oligarchy like a good feeder fish