@Shelbrina3@Gothams_Kitchen If we take in to account with out discrimination the lgbt population would be like 10% compared to the 85% who believe in it worldwide including many lgbt people
@alqdys13839 except it did so much so that the later severans had to conflate a persecution of julianist to them to basically hide the fact that so many in egypt willingly took up Heraclius compromise (the quote is from phiph booth)
@miaphysite3 2) they already managed to condem for this acts on the council so they deiced not to include them and leave it at that so Dioscorus was not condemned as heretic
@miaphysite3 given that McGuckin and others historians say that to the chalcedonians and other non alexandrians the 12 anathemas were not dogmas it makes sense menze also adds rather than they contradicting them they feared the anathemas migth bring up the question of Dioscorus orthodoxy.
@miaphysite3 it makes sense that the chalcedonians did passing comparison to the 12 chapters as the 12 chapters were not dogmatized at Ephesus as they were never voted upon, so aside from the second letter which everyone agreed to the different sides used different writtings.
@awmanspider@ThomasByrn35550 2) 30k is almost certainly an exaggeration this common in anti chalcedonian literature were they exaggerated persecution or in some cases like Cyrus persecution invented.
@awmanspider@ThomasByrn35550 Just as historians have shown Flavia and even the entire narrative of Ephesus II is wrong ( Dioscorus was not a tyrant bishop he was the emperor lackey see menze The Last Pharaoh and Ecclesiastical Politics in the Later Roman Empire, the casualties of the context of riots (+)
@ChristandGuitar Peter os rock while one can debate the exact meaning of that the idea that peter is the little rock is a protestant apologetics rejected by the majority of biblical scholarship since it makes no sense in the context.
@Eli_StayFocused @hoodtheodicy @OrthodoxEthos 2) wars him being a lutheran saw baptism as truly efficacious rather than a just a symbol there is also the debate on double predestination which goes beyond the sacraments and is directly linked to salvation which the reformed and lutherans at the time debated.
@Eli_StayFocused @hoodtheodicy @OrthodoxEthos Ignoring Gork is terrible at history most AI is it ignores that no catholics did not make it major issues Protestant had a lot of debates with in themslves see Luther vs Zwingli for example but the quote context is looking for intra-Protestant peace in the context of the 30 (+)
@Eli_StayFocused @hoodtheodicy @OrthodoxEthos also scripture is silent on a lot of things hence why early chirstianity was so divided on a lot of issues especially the relationship of Jesus to the father which also came back up during the protestant reformation with a revival of anti trinitarians.
@Eli_StayFocused @hoodtheodicy @OrthodoxEthos united in the essentials? real presence with lutherans vs its just symbolic in Baptist that not a minor theological issue on that topic baptismal regeneration.
@KirkGraystone@MrCasey62 this is certianlly not true given the debates post Josephus about specific books like ben sirach been quite popular or how akiva in the 2nd century has to defend the canocity of ester btw we dont know Josephus list
@muppetkind23328 define early church because many scholars admit that the papacy was already making claims about its self in the 5th century there is whole lot about Leo and the development of papal supremacy
@Ishodas_Thomman Ascpetcs of polytheism surived for a long chirstianity was really not in any siguiente way present in hejaz or central arabia so it would take time
@pangadelica@greenloeb I mean it makes sense even though I dont think there is evidence for this in the early iron age not that I know of yet we know moses even in the traditional view could not have written everything given his death is mentioned.
@pangadelica@greenloeb except for things like genesis saying naming the area of philistines which unless we take a very late date to the exodus does not fit since we know the philistines arrived during the bronze age collapse.
@Majormadd@OpStCyprian@FrMatthewLC already named them but chronicles likely reached its final composition circa 300 BC same with EzraโNehemiah Ptolemaic period 300 to 200 BC , Esther is also dated to around this time period