@ByronYork Is there a more obvious indictment that guys like him don’t live in the real world? As anyone who lives in the real world will tell you, publicly abusing your boss is cause for immediate dismissal.
This is an argument that has been repeated often for many years, and here's the thing:
Everyone on all sides of the conflict knows deep down that this is 100% true.
Society must reckon with what happened with the genocide libel. It must recognize that a kind of hallucinatory hysteria took hold—one that was specifically antizionist: a systemic complex of propaganda, libel, and moral inversion.
Only by confronting this episode—by admitting that large parts of the world entered into a form of collective psychosis in the aftermath of October 7—can any genuine moral clarity be restored.
Whether recognition begins with the genocide libel itself or with the broader antizionist complex that sustains it, the two are inseparable now. Without that reckoning, the same mechanisms will continue to operate unchallenged.
For those who may not have seen the Clinton video about the Camp David proposal Arafat rejected last minute, here it is.
“Hamas just wanted to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable… well I got news for them. They (the Jews) were there first. Before there was their faith, the Jews were there”
Here are two interesting facts.
1. The Palestinian (cramped) refugee camps were built by Jordan.
2. In the 1970s Israel built new homes for Palestinians living in Judea and Samaria, this was part of a larger program to improve the lives of post 1967 Palestinians, which included building new infrastructure and more, but the PLO and UNRWA sabotaged those efforts and encouraged Palestinians to stay in cramped ghettos and not to move.
In short, the PLO and their enablers intentionally sabotaged efforts to make life easier for Palestinians, with the excuse that the Palestinians will lose the so-called right to return to Israel proper.
It was always about intentionally perpetuating the conflict.
This sort of thing - entirely predictably deeming Israeli behaviour to be worse than any other the world has ever witnessed etc - is just pure, shameless, propaganda pushed by literal Islamists and jihadists, and their leftist allies.
To choose just one example here - over half a million people were killed in Syria. That’s vastly (around 9-10 times) more than have been killed in Gaza, in a war initiated by Gaza and its government by an attack involving the attempted beheading of random people, the deliberate burning to death of entire families, the rape and desecration of corpses, and the seizing of holocaust survivors and babies as hostages to murder.
Among other things, the conflict in Syria included armed jihadists taking large numbers of literal slaves, mass rape, repeated public mass executions, tribal massacres, beheadings, crucifixions, and much more. But those atrocities were carried out by Muslims not Jews, so there’s infinitely less islamo-leftist outrage. And those vastly more indiscriminate crimes, resulting in vastly higher numbers of dead and wounded, are surprise surprise deemed ‘not as bad’ as the crimes of the world’s only Jewish state which, they assert, is in fact ‘the worst of humanity.’
It’s just pure, medieval style sectarianism mixed with agitprop, pushed by some of the most bigoted people on the entire planet and lauded as ‘progressive’.
Every word of this Sam Harris essay on Israel is obviously true and it’s crazy that we live in an intellectual environment where this is called contrarianism.
Even Arab leaders admit it.
Everyone is sharing the Bill Clinton clip where he describes how Yasser Arafat rejected a generous peace offer at Camp David that would have given the Palestinians a state on 96 percent of the West Bank, land swaps, and a capital in East Jerusalem. Clinton says Arafat lied to him and that the Palestinian leadership never actually wanted a two-state solution. They wanted to destroy Israel. It’s a video often shared by people like @VividProwess, and it’s an important one for people to see.
Of course, critics immediately dismiss it. They claim Clinton is biased or he’s pro-Israel. They’ll tell you that you cannot trust the American perspective.
Ok, so let us set that aside.
Now watch this.
In this powerful interview, former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, a major Arab leader who was directly involved in negotiations, says exactly the same thing from the Arab side. He talks about the Mena House Conference in Cairo as well as the Camp David negotiations of 1978. All failed because of the Palestinians repeatedly rejecting any offer. The Oslo accords were signed but because Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad were not involved, they derailed the accords and any chance for peace by initiating 4 years of terrorist suicide attacks in Israel. Then came the second Camp David negotiations in 2000 which Arafat agreed to, then rejected and instead initiated the Second Intifada.
Mubarak explains how the Palestinians refused to even participate in the Mena House conference of 1977. He describes repeated opportunities they were given, including a detailed document that called for Israeli withdrawal from the Samaria, Judea and Gaza, security arrangements during a transitional period, and other major concessions. The Israelis were willing to negotiate on difficult issues like who would control security. The Palestinians, according to Mubarak, kept saying no and wasting chance after chance.
He speaks with clear frustration about how for decades the Palestinian side has rejected peace initiatives and realistic compromises.
The video further shows footage from the PLO representative in 1977, as well as old footage of Egyptian president Sadat who was involved in the Mena House and first Camp David negotiations of 1978.
This perhaps is far more impactful than Clinton’s account because it is not a Western or Israeli voice. It is prominent Arab leaders who lived the negotiations, who represented the broader Arab world, and who had zero incentive to defend Israel.
When leaders from both sides of the table describe the same pattern of Palestinian rejectionism and violence, it becomes much harder to dismiss as bias.
The pattern is clear across decades and across different voices… generous offers, repeated refusals, and continued demands for everything while giving nothing in return.
This is not ancient history. It is the core reason the conflict continues today.
If you value the truth, please share.
WHAT WE GIVE ISRAEL
The standard US military aid package is $3.8 billion per year $3.3 billion in Foreign Military Financing plus $500 million for joint missile defense programs. Israel must spend most of this on US-made products and services, and by 2028 essentially all of it must be spent in America.
WHAT ISRAEL GIVES BACK
1. F-35 R&D Savings: 55 billion
Israel resolved multiple technical issues during the F-35’s early development, reducing US R&D costs by an estimated $55 billion and accelerating deployment timelines.  The total F-35 program cost was $55 billion in R&D Israel’s combat testing effectively saved the US from having to discover and fix those problems on their own dime.
2. Intelligence Value: equivalent to 5 CIAs (75 billion/year)
General George Keegan, former Chief of US Air Force Intelligence, stated that Israel’s intel value equals “5 CIAs” providing a 400% return on investment on the $3.8 billion aid package. One CIA budget runs approximately $15 billion.  Five times that equals roughly $75 billion worth of intelligence annually for $3.8 billion in aid.
3. Strategic Base Value: $15–20 billion/year
As stated by Admiral Elmo Zumwalt and General Alexander Haig, Israel is the largest US aircraft carrier that does not require US military personnel on board, cannot be sunk, and is deployed in a critical region sparing the US the need to manufacture, deploy, and maintain real aircraft carriers with ground divisions, which would cost the US $15–20 billion annually. 
4. F-35 Export Multiplier: $40 billion in sales, $173 billion backlog
Israel’s battle-tested performance and upgrades to the F-35 contribute to $40 billion in US exports and a $173 billion backlog for US industry.  Israel essentially serves as the world’s most credible advertisement for American weapons.
5. Jobs and Economic Output: 255,000 jobs, $72 billion annually
The F-35 economic engine alone supports 290,000 US employees and $72 billion in annual economic output.  Israeli stakeholders hold contracts with over 1,000 American companies across 48 states, DC, and Puerto Rico.
Why do people need to lie about this?
Because they have nefarious reasons.
There’s no other reason to lie about this stuff.