@ClearlakeWon@AbsoluteBruno r9's first wc he played 0 min. mbappe's goal ratio is also better at the wc (and all comps) despite playing on weaker national sides.
@thespyhole@grok@CFCVortex dominated the wc and had more goals than games against european teams in tour games. destroyed european cup holders benfica in icc asw.
@lightfinisher@TopTheKiDD@someballfacts their expertise is in coaching collectives, not evaluating players individually in depth, and only a handful of them have worked with messi. so no, ur example doesnt work.
the committee for mvp awards is also not comprised of coaches
@lightfinisher@TopTheKiDD@someballfacts in football there's no such thing as scientific or measurable "authority". it's a sport for crying out loud, it's entertainment. football players/managers state stupid takes all the time.
@ppllkkjjI@21sixtyfive@someballfacts opinions dont mean anything on their own, agreed, they have to be backed by evidence, which u havent done. others' opinions is not evidence
@lightfinisher@TopTheKiDD@someballfacts not analogous at all. i said idc abt mvp's cuz its an opinion. if u give me the argument that brought then to that conclusion then thats a point
@ppllkkjjI@21sixtyfive@someballfacts "backed by experts" lmao as if sport is a science. argument from authority
u made the claim so i expected u to back it up with something better than an opiniated award.
@ppllkkjjI@21sixtyfive@someballfacts i mean if u think messi is a better wc player than mbappe, pele, r9, muller, etc then im giving u the benefit of the doubt by calling it bait.
@lightfinisher@TopTheKiDD@someballfacts i said no ones rates it OVER his other performances w goals, read. and yes, it is a general statement. generally, goalscoring is more valuable/difficult than playmaking