@zakizimam95994@Skuiggly Bingo! We're developed enough to realise that unnecessary suffering is immoral, therefore your previous argument about something being ok because animals do it/ it's natural is invalid. We can stop killing + torturing animals for our sustenance when alternatives are available ^^
@zakizimam95994@Skuiggly Okay then why are humans who rape and kill other humans barbaric when animals do the same? Also no one is treating them like saints
@LightblindedEye@Skuiggly Other animals also kill individuals from their same species but bizarrely killing other humans is not glorified because it's "natural". Especially that richer countries have less murders than poorer ones, does that mean that qualifying murder as immoral is a luxury?
@ashdiariees Bad faith because we have always been saying that whoever has a condition making it so they need meat is excluded just like remote societies that rely on hunting. We only think people who can go vegan should but this very category brings up the exceptions all the time
@ashdiariees "Privileged take" and it's just a question. 2026 and y'all are still pretending that people encouraging veganism are targeting the very few people with rare medical conditions that wouldn't be able to go vegan. Also needing calories is not one of those conditions
@See_Bleuu This stems from misogyny, the view that your men with their women is poisoning their will but the opposite is a symbol of domination. To believe that you must also believe that men's genetic transmission is somehow stronger which is false. We are all 50% each of our parents
Weβre at the dealership and Iβm over here CRACKING UP at these bathroom doors. ππ And my wife, does NOT think this shit is funny at all. π