Alzan

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Antitheist
Scientist

[Alzan @alz_zan]

@stolperson It icks you because of the moral consideration YOU have for animals. You regard them as so inferior, so unworthy of consideration, that you think that comparison is somehow diminishing human beings. It is quite the opposite

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@pileofbuttonz @AGallagherAlly If A implies B, it doesn't mean that B implies A, why are you so many having issues with basic logic, it's crazy

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@SWANDIVE2004 @Skeleman71 Hello, animal agriculture DESTROYS food

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@SWANDIVE2004 @Rensparx Animal agriculture actually destroys food.

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 Maybe but then you should keep working to reach that moral position

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 Well, they're reimbursed, mostly

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 Yes, better, but not enough
As you say, you want to do better, the same applies regarding animals

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 Well no not really, I live in a country with health coverage

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 You don't need dairy for calcium, and the dairy industry is working hand in hand with the meat industry
Local or not eggs are not ethical, the male chicks are killed immediately, the laying hens after one year or so
The proximity to your home doesn't change a thing, this is bad

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 "right outside my city" is literally an anecdote, yes
Check the numbers

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 Have you really tried all kinds of supplements? I'm pretty sure there are vegans with your condition and they find a way
Not saying it is not harder, but I doubt it is just not possible

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 Yes of course reduction is better than nothing, but when you think something is truly immoral it is not enough
You would not be contempt with someone being a little less racist, a little less sexist, even if that someone is really trying

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 So you consume no dairy, no egg, never order meat outside the house
You only eat red meat (rich in iron) as a medical thing, is it the way you do it?

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 You don't need to pay for X to fund Elon, you see adds (so, money) , you give him influence
Deforestation because of AI is 1) anecdotical, again nothing compared to farming 2) not necessary anyway, it is a broader issue
You really need to look at the scales

[Alzan @alz_zan]

@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 It is not hypocritical, you need to consider the scales we are talking about
You would not say we are hypocrites for watching Netflix for example, even though it also costs ressources
Right now we are discussing on an app that also has an impact, funding an actual bad person xd

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@PastaEater_ @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 They are killed when they are a few months...

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 I'm a researcher and it is already used by everyone in research, it makes our lives so much easier, it is such a powerful tool
It will shape the future of humanity, that's for certain

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 We care, and AI is not the moral catastrophy you could imagine when reading people on twitter
It has an impact, like all human things, but on scales that are just not comparable
Of course some people will use it with bad intends, just as every tool

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@PastaEater_ @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 On twitter everyone claims that they have that rare medical condition that makes it impossible, so I'm a bit doubtful there is no way around
Ethical meat doesn't exist (yet, maybe), but glad that you at least try

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@PastaEater_ @Phronesis24 @AsphoxK @ZackTheEnby @mukinabaht3 Never heard supplements were not good long term
You just need to take some on and off for a while to replenish your stock
I do that when I'm low in iron after giving too much blood (fuck, I was supposed to not care about humans, I'm so inconsistant)