after amma tackles camille to the grass and they’re sitting in the front lawn, there’s a split second where amma crawls over to camille and nearly into camille’s lap. maybe amma landed there like in the book, head atop camille’s thighs, gazing up at her with a dopey smile.
after amma tackles camille to the grass and they’re sitting in the front lawn, there’s a split second where amma crawls over to camille and nearly into camille’s lap. maybe amma landed there like in the book, head atop camille’s thighs, gazing up at her with a dopey smile.
@LurkerBurn this is true. i think what i end up gathering from show!camille instead is a tender affection belying her cowardice and inability to be as firm as she should be with amma. she wants to protect amma from the beginning and exhibits a level of care that book!camille doesn’t.
• the scene in which camille and amma are lying in bed together is my favorite scene in the show, so i’m glad some that vulnerability remains in the book’s version. rather than amma lifting camille’s shirt to trace the words on her skin, amma is the one unclothed.
@LurkerBurn agreed! i would describe show!ammille in the same way. and i also think i prefer book!camille simply because her resistance to amma is more believable. show!amma is more submissive to a less aggressive amma, which is pretty funny. she has the backbone of a wet paper towel.
@ant1mony as opposed to leering at amma lustfully. now that i’m on chapter thirteen, there is a STRONG argument for desire, but even if camille didn’t want amma, their boundaries are nonexistent. camille is not behaving like the adult in this situation, and all the lines are blurred.
just finished chapter nine:
• noticing how in the show, amma’s motivation for picking a fight with camille was that camille had chosen to spend time with richard instead of her. anger was the motivation for her mockery. in the book, her cruelty is unwarranted.
just finished chapter six:
• “[…], but my mother would not be distracted from her grief. to this day it remains a hobby.”
• camille’s “compulsive neatness” is an interesting quirk that gives more insight to her character (particularly when considering adora’s own compulsions)
@ant1mony as i get further into the book, it is absolutely predatory. all of camille’s inner dialogue would be very concerning to any licensed professional. at this point in the book, however, i could see an angle in which camille was just inappropriately comparing herself to amma.
amma laying her head in camille’s lap and rubbing her blood on camille’s lips. wow.
• “[amma] loves me like marian did. i smiled.” and “then i realized i was imagining marian.” direct marian comparisons.
• “christ, amma. you’re too rough.” / “i thought you liked it rough.”
• the delight amma takes in hurting is explicit in the text. blatant. she screams into the air how she loves it.
• “i’m so happy with you. you’re like my soulmate.” / “you’re like my sister.” / “i love you.”
• “she looked up at me and stroked my face, and i let her.”
a smart, f*cked-up little girl. sounded familiar.”
• “she took my hand and offered me a pure, sweet smile, petting my palm, which might have felt better than any touch i’d ever experienced. on my left calf freak sighed suddenly.”
she also refers to marian as “ann.” both camille and marian are strangers to her.
• amma calling camille a “good girl”…
• camille’s description of amma’s tongue was more obscene than the kiss itself.
• “i was impressed, and liking her more every minute.
• camille overcome by shame for wanting desperately to fit in with amma and her friends. she acknowledges it’s pathetic, and yet can’t help from regressing into the mindset of her high school self.
• amma’s use of the nickname “mille” and her overfamiliarity.
• “you were so sweet with me the other night. now you’re so changed. why?” / “i don’t know. i wish i could fix it. i do.”
• “plus, there was amma and her mysterious friendliness toward me. i hated to admit it, but i was becoming obsessed with the girl.”
it’s not an endorsement of amma inflicting harm, but recognition of a coping mechanism that requires aggression camille doesn’t herself possess.
• camille’s protectiveness: “[amma] was still thirteen.” camille was also thirteen with the four boys at that party.
however, the “smooth flesh” line points to comparison again.
• “when i’d been sad, i hurt myself. amma hurt other people.” something that was shown not told in the series. camille internalizes, amma externalizes. camille also feels a “spear of admiration” for amma.