@MrZachG Important factors in a school eval: engagement of students, engagement of teachers, what do the students do, how do they share, are students and teachers connected… tests and grades are not good ways to evaluate schools or people.
@MrZachG We should celebrate neither. Getting good grades in class is often about compliance. Standardized teats are flawed in lots of ways (ie indicate socioeconomic level etc).
Vonnegut's reflection is a breath of fresh air in an achievement-crazy culture - and particularly welcome in contrast to the grit mindset that says kids must stick with one thing until they master it (even if joylessly) rather than sampling a broad range of experiences.
@perennialfarmer@jrheling @FarmerCarly27 I saw them on Facebook marketplace - periodically they get listed in various places as business end up with them.
@jimmypursey69@RizomaSchool Wouldn’t a set curriculum based on them be antithetical to the philosophy? That being said I know of a couple h/s groups that are centered on decolonization that draw heavily on these scholars and help guide parents.
@kl_elliott @RizomaSchool I think rather than looking at homeschooling as a menu of approaches - that really deeply examining your beliefs about children, education and parenting is necessary as a prerequisite for aligning oneself in preparation for h/s.
@Happyholistichs@RizomaSchool@jrheling@normonics Cool - It may be the CM people I have interacted with have a layer of authority in their homeschooling approach that wasn't coming from CM but from other ideological approaches to parenting or education.
@Happyholistichs@RizomaSchool@jrheling@normonics I do think that the differences are rooted in theology - I don't have any interest in engaging on that - I do really adore many part of CM and use a lot of CM stuff in classes I teach on the farm.
@RizomaSchool@jrheling@normonics@Happyholistichs Lessons and acceptance of culture and tradition come from the involvement of the community - but the child learns these by being part of the life of the family not because it was instilled by authority.
@RizomaSchool@jrheling@normonics@Happyholistichs It is though the authority of the adult that the child accepts the lesson. Montessori places agency for learning in the child - adults prepare the environment, then child through hands on interactions with materials & the environment experiences the concept & abstracts knowledge.
@fangmarks@normonics Reading Montessori herself is lovely and important part of really understanding; however, I recommend starting with Montessori Madness by Trevor Eissler as a parent's perspective on Montessori; The Science Behind the Genius-Angeline Lillard ; Montessori Today by Paula Lillard
@chrismanfrank @normonics This is what Montessori observed - you work with the developing child rather than against them. "Education" is not the goal - maybe we could say learning is the goal of "school" but really it is about creating an environment to allow humans to develop to their own potential.
@chrismanfrank @normonics .. propel them to answer the important questions of the day. The adults are crazy to think we have the answers that need to be passed down - We need to create an environment where children can keep a love of learning alive - it is not ‘instilled’ from above