Every guy who has worked with married men has heard some variation of the below.
It's proliferated because outside authority figures - religious or secular - cater to their victimhood narrative. Sometimes these women physically attack their husbands, and when he leaves the premises, they harm themselves and claim HE abused her.
Always make sure you start recording when things get this out of hand. SAVE and DOCUMENT what occured.
Many guys lose this war because they are unwilling to go on offense and share their side of the story publicly. They don't want to "cause drama," but their reticence only ends up creating more for themselves, because they allow a whisper campaign to form that has no logical rebuttal.
What men need to understand is the moment a woman hits your or jumps out of a car and TELLS OTHER PEOPLE you in fact where the one who harmed her, the marriage is over.
You can come back as a couple from a moment or two of insanity if she keeps it private / doesn't blame you, but the moment she inverts a story and goes after your reputation publicly, trust is OVER. She has signaled she does not want to repair things - she wants to destroy you. You should not be naive about what comes next.
Be sure to discard every "friend" who wrote you off without due process.
My Story:
> born in so cal/OC, lived in the same city all my life
> mowed every yard in my neighborhood
> washed every car in my neighborhood
> this all started around age 7
> at 16 I started a office cleaning business
> at 18 I started installing roofs
> at 19 I started a roof removal company
> at 20 I got my GF, now wife of 26 years pregnant
> bought our first house at age 21
> ran a roof removal and demolition co for 21 years
> employed 50-85 guys
> survived the GFC unscathed
> durning GFC co went from 50 guys to 10
> spent all of 2009 in Durban South Africa
> after 21 years my demo co was forced to close
> I spent all of 2017 at home with agoraphobia
> I lost all of 2017 and 2018 to anxiety attacks
> 2019 we started flipping houses full time
> 2020 pivoted to flipping land (covid)
> 2022 back to flipping houses
> I hold 5 contractors licenses
> I hold a CA Brokers license
> I have dabbled in too many trades and deals
> I love to help people
> I believe I am a world class connector
> Ive read the Bible every year for 8 years
> I have never had another person sign my paycheck
At the end of the day, I identify as a demolition contractor, who bought some real estate. They were the best years of my life and when it was taken away from me I lost all my identity and rebuilt my life with a faith in Jesus.
My story isnt over, my second act is coming.
Do you understand how boring it is to listen to the hysterical outbursts of bad faith women like you? We are having a mature conversation about sex. You are like a spoiled toddler who starts screaming for something at the dinner table when adults are talking.
I am so glad I married my wife. Unlike so many of the women on here she is grounded enough to allow honest, difficult conversations to happen without guilt or gaslighting. Even if she's pissed or hurt she doesn't attack my integrity.
That is intimacy - having hard talks about emotional and sexual needs, and accepting what is real about each other (even if shameful) - not the narcissistic slop you and so many others spew on here.
I am the last person on this site attacking women for being how they are sexually, and I am not demanding anything from them they cannot give openly. If you were paying attention you might notice I am one of the few who is able to discuss female nature without turning it into a moral judgement.
Can you say the same about men? Or is any male need beyond starfish sex once a month just "pornified entitlement?"
Marriages are failing because of women like you. Look in the mirror.
To the Americans:
I've travelled all over the world. I've familiarized myself with many places, and met many people. And I'm a Canadian, although I’m privileged to reside once again in the States.
And here's something I've noticed, and it’s a key element of America's continuing greatness:
You bloody Americans value success, and you believe in its existence.
This is something that doesn't really happen anywhere else in the world. Even in other free democracies—the United Kingdom; Finland, Sweden, and Norway; Australia, New Zealand and Canada; Germany, France, and the Netherlands (great countries all)—a counterproductive cynicism too often reigns.
Success is equated with exploitation.
Ambition is looked upon with contempt.
This happens sometimes in the United States too—particularly among the miserable progressives, who confuse their resentment, ingratitude and unearned skepticism with wisdom.
But in your great country, by and large, striving is admired and success celebrated.
This means that more people strive and succeed in the US than anywhere else. And it's increasingly obvious. You remain stunningly more innovative and productive than any people anywhere else on the planet.
And so I say, as all should who are fortunate enough to live in the western world, let alone America:
Thank God for the United States.
Thank God for the wisdom of its founders.
Thank God for its faith in the free market and in the natural rights of man.
Happy birthday, you damn Yankees and Southerners.
Long may your admirable country dominate the world.
Long may your freedom and hope provide an example to those suffering everywhere at the hands of their malevolent states.
May your two and a half centuries of unparallelled success be just the beginning.
Your country is the light of the world, and the city on the hill.
Thank God for the USA.
Happy 250th.
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
@Annchap43858665 There's only 2 Commandments; and you can't keep them on your own:
To love the Lord thy God with 'all' your heart, and your neighbour as yourself.
Half of us don't love ourselves, & the other half have never loved anything with all our heart.
It takes God to love God.
We need Him.
If we are ever curious, this is what Satan looks like. Not horns and a pitchfork, but a bitter, sarcastic smile mocking your suffering. We can see his face because these are his children.
We have an epidemic of women who cannot find a 6’8” multi millionaire golden retriever werewolf who respects her independence but will also lead her and give her space but also romance her but only when she wants, will not judge her past and also be religious but not serious.
Ollie’s most powerful skill: memory.
Unlike your husband who might forget your daughter’s birthday, Ollie won’t.
It:
> makes sure you never miss an appointment
> triages important updates across your email and WhatsApp
> plans meals and groceries based on your family’s preferences
This kills the mental load of parenting.
Ask any woman to describe her deepest sexual or romantic fantasies about a man.
She’ll describe a shirtless warrior with long magnificent hair flowing in the wind, riding a powerful horse while clutching her tightly in his arms… or a fearless firefighter carrying her out of flames, a dominant knight, a commanding captain, or a ruthless billionaire who takes full control.
She will never fantasize about a man doing the dishes, changing diapers as a stay-at-home dad, or nurturing the kids while she leads.
What does that mean?
Feminism has rewritten the marriage contract. But a woman's primal association to desire still remains intact in her subconscious.
What does that mean for a man?
1. If you are not the 1st kind (warrior), being only the 2nd kind (nurturer) won't help you keep her.
2. She will say she just wants a man to be equal, to share the load, to respect and to care for her. But if you lack the qualities of the 1st kind, eventually she will start to lose her desire for you (exact lines will be - I don't have feelings for you anymore) and leave you. It wouldn't matter how good you were as the 2nd kind.
Men, hope you get the memo.
The modern marriage contract isn't asking you to step up. It's asking you to live your marital life in a perpetual state of confusion, dictated by women's whims and fancies, while expecting you to make peace with this chaos.
It is asking you to accept your role as a disposable tool, who is used for resources when needed, and is given respect, when it suits her.