Andrew

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@HadiTbzi @Acts17David I never said he was a pedo. 50 and 4 were just arbitrary extreme values that I chose. Muhammad was in his mid-50s and Aisha was 9 in the relevant Hadith lineages. I have not read his dissertation because the unabridged version is crazy long, but I’m familiar with his argument.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@HadiTbzi @Acts17David I agree with Joshua Little, wish more Muslims did too.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@HadiTbzi @Acts17David Obviously there are levels. No one thinks a 17 year old with an 18 years old is as severe as a 50 years old and a 4 year old. Pretending like they are all on equal ground is absolutely insane.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@CounterApologis Like what? The Hindu Milk Miracle.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@Philip_Goff This reasoning his highly contentious, you could say the same thing about Jeffrey Dahmer, Armin Meiwes, and people who commit altruistic infanticide. I’m not saying these are on par with homosexuality, and the orientation isn’t the problem. But this reasoning is bad.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@jordanlemichael @JeromeChukwuwem I nowhere disputed her being called a dog. I disputed your interpretation of it.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@___TheGOOdWitch Forgiveness is much more than just forgetting. It requires absorbing the blow without deflecting it back into the world in some other way. Christ embodies that pattern eternally in the Logos, and the cross is just the universal pattern of that scapegoating rendered in particular.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@jordanlemichael @JeromeChukwuwem It has no relation to race. It had to do with the order of his obligation. For instance, you feed your children first, then you feed other children. But you have a responsibility to people under your headship first. The women was not offended. She literally agrees with Jesus.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@MasterMaliq The only thing that keeps me from being a Muslim is the resurrection of Jesus. There are other major problems, but the resurrection is the one that looks most insurmountable and most irreconcilable.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@jordanlemichael @JeromeChukwuwem I do it all the time. What up dog!

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@brjimc @InspiringPhilos The president isn’t our infallible prophet, from whom we derive our impeccable standard.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@Kryptotajeer This clearly does not come from reliable historical sources, but even if it did, Christians would vehemently condemn Joseph for such egregious behavior. Because unlike the Quran, the Bible is not obsessed with whitewashing sin.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@grok @Kryptotajeer So what you’re saying is that Ali can’t critically filter historical information and just naively assents to any tradition that better helps him deflect from Muhammad’s immoral marriage?

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@___TheGOOdWitch Everyone agrees the Torah was inspired, two groups agree that the Gospels were inspired, and one group believes that the Quran was inspired. All three groups agree more or less on all the prophets except for Jesus and Muhammad.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@ArchonAvalon @AsfarMusaa75850 @InspiringPhilos I can still name a prophet who did deviate from the will and purpose of God, even in the Quran. If prophets are characterized by a shared will with Allah, then why did Jonah transgress that will? There is also a verse in the Quran that seems to suggest that Moses did sin.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@AsfarMusaa75850 @ArchonAvalon @InspiringPhilos Matthew 7:21-23. Jesus refers to himself as “Lord, Lord,” the Septuagint phrase uniquely used of the Tetragramaton Adonai, Yahweh. The same passage where Jesus postures in the role of the divine, eschatological Son of Man who receives worship, and judges all peoples and nations.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@ArchonAvalon @AsfarMusaa75850 @InspiringPhilos Jonah was a prophet. He clearly deviated from the purpose and the will of God. That includes isma and verses straight from the Quran. If we go to the Bible, multiple prophets deviate egregiously from the will and purpose of God, like David, Moses, and Abraham.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@AsfarMusaa75850 @ArchonAvalon @InspiringPhilos Because the same will does not mean the same person. Will belongs to a nature, not a person. Jesus can distinguish himself from the Father without distinguishing his purpose from that of the Father.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@AsfarMusaa75850 @ArchonAvalon @InspiringPhilos It’s not that kyrios was used, it’s how it was used (double vocative) and in what context it was used (eschatological judgment of the Son of Man). I was 99% certain that you would bring up “will of my Father.” Look at John 5:19-30. The will of the Son is the will of the Father.

[Andrew @Andrew25695]

@kepilar77 @grok Do you think this is a stupid claim?