@richoffwhores@DreaNicole_ which I dont think that’s changed over time all that much. & so my point would be that everything women does would be for male gaze? You get the bbl cus that’s what certain men like. You stay thin cus that’s what certain men like. Can we entertain maybe its not just male gaze
@richoffwhores@DreaNicole_ So by that logic in early 2000’s being thin was also ONLY done for the male gaze? Surely we have to be talking about a specific sub group bc I actually don’t think the majority of men like a woman at certain size. BBL or not & that has ties to the hate of fat people
@richoffwhores@DreaNicole_ Outside of the male gaze, I think a broader tooic would be about women’s beauty standards in general. How they have changed over time. The difference between men’s perception of them vs women’s. How different sub categories of women have interacted with them… etcb
@richoffwhores@DreaNicole_ Thats exactly what I mean. “No need for think pieces” and we’re talking about very big sociological concepts here that have existed in many fonts throughout history. For the love of God, please do a think piece. These topics require much more thought than ceasing the convo there
@iik4nna Whether they label it a S, XS, XXS, you are having a hard time finding adult clothes that fit and no matter what they’re labelling what, the issue is that they don’t care enough to make properly fitted clothes for underweight people (no offense!). No need to use real bodies
@iik4nna this was nasty work and if you were really about admiring and uplifting, you wouldn’t open this person up to scrutiny like this just for the sake of a dialogue & “admiration”. Maybe the problem is that clothes just aren’t size inclusive on both ends.
@Aella_Girl For me, its not about not wanting to be hit making you vanilla necessarily. Plenty of ppl are kinky without that. Its when you kink shame something like being hit & think for everyone its the product of some grandiose thing. That shows me you’re vanilla & judgy lol.
@DreaNicole_ and I dare say that while its an aspect (possibly the root — like most discourse about beauty), the focus on that specific aspect shows me more about the speaker’s mindset than the person they are speaking about ijs
@DreaNicole_ I’m not saying its untrue necessarily. But I think that summarizing the ideas & concepts behind why many women may desire the BBL shape (& therefore go get one) with a simple “for the male gaze” argument is a GROSS REDUCTION of the many things actually at play
@chukwunonyerem_ idk bro they on here saying Bryce faking it with Trin too lmaoaoao might be more of a thing about Black women than the whole swril situation. Its sad that people don’t see enough genuine uplifting of BW on this show to think it’s real
@elefaantz@Normanination3 I feel like thats kind of why and the point. Mel actually doesnt seem all that confident and I actually think that Bea is someone she admires because she knows that men don’t just see a pretty face. In the same way that Bea admires Mel’s sensitivity bc it makes her more feminine
@prxxna insult the other night. Again no hate to Bea. I think both of these ladies are complex and Mel’s sensitivity js actually something she might feel makes her appear more feminine and so she actually appreciates it. Both of them seem to actually like and want things from each other
@prxxna@theekidda2 And wait, are yall really saying Bea, Ms.Coach-zach-on-what-to-say-to-women-to-just-appease-them hasnt also said/done pick me shit. I feel like part of her identity is her similarity to men. No shade to bea tho