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Matthew 22:1–14

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You’re literally just redefining the trinity, and critiquing your own distorted version of it. This fails in every way @MMetaphysician

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Premises 2–7 can be granted—but only if “is” isn’t being used the same way every time.

Christians aren’t using strict identity here. It’s essential predication:

* “is God” = has the one divine essence
* NOT: “is one of multiple gods”

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Premise 1 — fails

You’re assuming:

“x is God” → x is a countable instance

But that’s the whole issue. In Trinitarian usage, “God” isn’t a count noun—it functions more like a nature.

So the whole biconditional falls apart.

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Premise 8 — fails

This is just misleading.

At most it means: only 3 persons are divine.
Not: 3 members of a class called “gods”

Person ≠ instance of a set.

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Premise 10 — fails

Irrelevant.

Yeah, “god” can be used as a count noun in English.
That doesn’t mean that’s what’s happening in 2–4.

You’d have to show that reading keeps the same meaning—and it doesn’t.

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Premise 11 — biggest problem

This is where it really breaks.

You switch meanings mid-argument:

* earlier: “is God” = sharing the divine nature
* now: “is God” = a countable instance

That’s just equivocation. You’re changing the claim.

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Premise 12

Doesn’t follow.

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Core issue:

You’re forcing count-noun logic onto something that isn’t being used that way.

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Bottom line:

If you redefine “God” as a countable category, then yeah—3 gods follows.

But that’s not Trinitarianism.

* 3 persons
* 1 divine essence (not something you count)

Bad argument, try again.

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@Davidwoodi85213 @Africancomrade1 @muslimorthodoxy Oh, so now I’m retarded?

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Honestly, if Muhammad had preached and lived similarly to Jesus by loving his enemies, refusing political power, and embodying radical self-sacrificial love rather than marrying a child and leading military campaigns, the comparison might be more compelling.

For Christians, God’s fullest revelation is Jesus Himself, whose moral example, teachings, and way of life stand in a category of their own.

The deeper issue is that the Quran is claimed to be the direct Word of God. If that is true, why does Jesus appear to embody the attributes we would most expect from an infinite God way more clearly? Love, truth, mercy, justice, and humility shine through virtually every aspect of his life and teachings. Whether one believes he is God or not, his example remains very difficult to surpass.

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@Africancomrade1 @Davidwoodi85213 @muslimorthodoxy Read my original message again. I said “constantly.” I was simply pointing out that he only ever seems to insult Christians and does not give any real substance. Then one of his followers responded by calling me an idiot, so I replied with a SpongeBob meme. Does that offend you?

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This is ridiculous. Jesus wasn’t giving a lecture on global botany lmao. He was using ordinary agricultural language that first century farmers would understand. We literally still do this today all the time. The point of the parable is that God’s Kingdom starts small and grows large. If your takeaway is “actually there are smaller seeds,” you’ve managed to miss the entire point of the story.

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@Davidwoodi85213 @muslimorthodoxy “dO u NoT uNdErStAnD?”

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@Jvnior Whats the definition of “God” in your eyes?

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From the early Christian perspective, Jesus was always a blessing. In Galatians it does not deny that. Paul’s point is that the innocent Messiah accepted the fate reserved for the condemned. Literally the whole force of the verse depends on Jesus being righteous. If He were actually cursed in the moral sense, Paul’s argument would fully collapse. The interesting paradox of Christianity is that the Blessed One enters the place of the cursed in order to transform it.

You are consistently misinterpreting and flattening Christian concepts in almost every argument you have. I don’t necessarily blame you though, it seems you get this type of logic from the Quran.

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@brs_offl @MasterMaliq He never went to India.

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@JayDyer @patrickbetdavid No

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@samwellsg @IShowSpeedHQ Great comment to show your atheistic lack of morals

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@Jvnior @givetrumpareal1 @korrathetaymi would love a heartfelt response from you as well if possible 🙏

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You’re saying Jesus was ONLY a prophet, but that’s where I get stuck.

Jesus is called the Word of God, the Messiah, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, worked miracles, raised the dead, and is coming back to judge the world. A entire religion was based on him that has billions of people in it. People debated his nature for centuries.

Then I read the actual words of Jesus and compare them to that of the Quran. Jesus seems to reveal a much deeper level of love, mercy, humility, and self-sacrifice. Much higher level of moral than Muhammad and the Quran.

So my question is this:

If Jesus is the Word of God, why do I feel like Jesus reveals God’s character more clearly than the Quran does?

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@Paul56874710353 @sneako You’re not going to solve anything fighting with fire. Don’t spread hate.

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@Jvnior @givetrumpareal1 @MasterMaliq @muslimorthodoxy @Deenresponds would love an honest response! Would mean a lot. Nobody seems to have a clear and logical answer on this.

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@Jvnior @givetrumpareal1 In other words, something is not adding up. And I’d love to hear a legitimate response that is not just a regurgitated polemic. A thought out response that makes sense of the data and logic we have today @Jvnior

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@Jvnior @givetrumpareal1 @Jvnior Why would God send Jesus with miracles, sinlessness, and unique titles, yet expect people not to elevate Him above ordinary prophets?

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