Everything you track lives in a different app. Your sleep, your calendar, your spending. None of them talk to each other.
I'm building the layer that connects them, privately, on your Mac. It finds the patterns no single app can see.
@nickco the closest ones mostly pull workouts and vitals but stop short of pulling in bloodwork, that integration is where almost everything falls down. what sources are you most wanting it to connect, just fitness and labs or further out than that?
@janbtc this is the realest take in the thread. the hardware was never really the question, it's that the software either tracks nothing useful or hides it behind another fee. people don't churn because the sensor is bad, they churn because the day to day gives them nothing
@VinceJacX@WHOOP the no transfer thing is the part that gets me. you bought it, it's yours, and it still ends up as landfill because the months are locked to your account. that's the whole problem with renting access to your own device
@hustlepotato the meaning problem line is exactly right. a red score with no context isn't insight, it's just a number telling you to feel bad. the value was never the data, it's what connects to what. this is the part i'm building toward too
@rainbowjanelane if you mostly wear it to bed a ring might suit you way better than a watch, far less to notice. fitbit's hrv has a rough reputation for exactly this. what are you trying to learn from it, recovery or stress?
@mutant1879 you just said the reason i started building in this space. once the score is the product, it can't stay honest. mine only works if it has no incentive except showing you what's actually in your data
@Sydnatash yeah i've got one. the subscription is the part that bugs most people, the core tracking still works without it, you just lose the daily scores. and there's a whole crowd building no subscription setups right now if you don't mind tinkering. what are you mainly wanting to track?
@AIHealthExport this is the right half of the problem. getting the data out clean is what stops people being locked to one assistant. is the export fully on device or does the file pass through a server first?
@parthav_j the whoop section nails it. great sensors trapped behind a subscription and an app that feels stuck in 2020. the hardware was never the problem, the software and the pricing model are. solid breakdown
@gbrl_dick good enough for soldering iphones is the most honest sleep score readout i've ever seen. the cheap rings really are closer than they have any right to be
@toeknee_kim app free live stream off a ring 4 is wild. the spo2 extraction is the one i'd love to see land. is it gated behind the same firmware thing the hr stream needs or a different wall entirely?
@OB_LLP that's the whole game right there. a walk after a rough meeting beats any number on a screen. most of these tools stop at showing you the spike and never get to the so what
@vu3dtu that's roughly where i landed too. cross check the overlapping metrics, and when two trusted sources agree you keep it, when they drift you flag it instead of silently trusting one. the hard part is the derived stuff like calories where there's no ground truth to check against
@MattMercurio exactly the wall i keep hitting. my answer so far is the user brings their own api key and every call that leaves the device is shown plainly before it happens. no background processing of the encrypted stuff, you decrypt in the moment, use it, done. not elegant but honest
@MattMercurio that bar is where consumer apps should be headed honestly. if the data is personal the developer shouldn't be able to read it. goals, health or anything
@vu3dtu the cheap rings closing the gap that fast is wild. the apple health piece is the interesting part to me, how are you planning to handle it when the sources disagree?
@OB_LLP ok the hour by hour view is better than i expected. has seeing the spikes actually changed anything you do during the day, or is it just entertainment at this point?