i meant to tell Claude to "consider all angles" but i accidentally typed "consider all angels." it's been thinking for 47 minutes with no sign of stopping, and now my laptop is making an unearthly wailing
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 Great. Why did his DNA not then not suffer from original sin?
(Thats why the Catholics defined the Immaculate Conception but if idk if I have the wherewithal to defend that to you tonight, frank. Goodbye and good luck. Im praying for you)
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 And more to the point it’s “transfigured” like Transfiguration wherein Christ remained himself and became glorified which is what you’re supposed to learn from that story. Thats the same body we are gonna get in heaven. It’s in the bible!
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 Let me know when you disprove the claim that the wounds on his body illustrate that he remained in his body and did not receive a new one. It isn’t biblical, it’s false witness.
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 To the Greek transform, μετασχηματίζω metaschematizo
Spoiler it doesn’t mean new body, it means to disguise with.
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@Raggsadocious@StabbyReads@johncwright2001 Yeah. We know. There’s leaps in logic but it’s pointing in that direction. Our doctrine is settled, we’re just chatting about stuff we like. Glad you jumped in.
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 Your burden of proof now requires that Christ showing his wounds to Thomas somehow means that he didn’t have the same body that he died in, but he just put the wounds on for show(?) and idk how in the world youre gonna do it but I’ll be here waiting
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 Ad hom, no one is deifying Mary, but we are suggesting that God can manifest himself using scientifically veritable means. Idk what washed in the graces does to your DNA, but I think you’re out on a limb. Share this one with your friends, you totally won!
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 Does postmodernist accusation just mean you don’t get what I’m saying and Youre ad hominem’ing ? Buddy come on. You’ve failed to establish your case or address any of the claims. Check in when you have anyone who backs your claims
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 Bible says Mary important & thats validated by science via OP.
You made claims about how the bible says DNA is fundamentally changed by sin, a claim not found in scripture thats a theory you came up with.
These are not the same thing. I asked where in scripture, your move
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 If you can actually point to how my argument citing Aquinas is postmodernist interpretation I will eat my hat and four other hats.
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 Ok show me where scripture contradicts Aquinas’ summary and we can analyze that. Your position that we don’t have the same body just isn’t found in scripture. You’re not gonna sola your way out of this one
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 Actually I’ll offer a gracious hand in case youre actually missing it: it’s the same physical body with the same DNA, you don’t get a new one, and it’s perfected so it becomes cooler. But it’s the same dna. Therefore the Mary stuff matters
@Fleeciii@Raggsadocious@johncwright2001 a “do your own research” conclusion doesn’t instill me with a degree of hope in your reasoning.
I respectfully yield to the entire 2000 year history of doctors of the church before trusting my bachelors degree. Go ask Aquinas, everyone else does.