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@kingsizze87@m_eyit Argue, I genuinely said I'm confused you should enlighten me the way Jesus would want you to do and you didn't agree????
Are you saved???
@kingsizze87@m_eyit Can we have a Google meet to talk about these scriptures , so you can save me from my misery according to what Jesus instructed you to do.
I'm confused, help a brother
@iMichaelSpeaks So you will have time to help me and save me from my miseries because if you don't do this and just want to argue then you're not following what Jesus asked you to do. So just select the date and time let's talk on a Google meet call or Zoom.
Thank you.
@iMichaelSpeaks So we don't keep on back and forth, if you're truly convinced about what you're saying and you are a good follower of Christ, then I know that you will want to save me from my misguided and false position, tell me when you're free, both date and time let's have a google meet
@iMichaelSpeaks Of teaching people more Grace, that same thing that changed the root you now want to leave it and start addressing the fruit it doesn't and cannot work.
The same message that get you saved is the message that will sustain you, it's not behaviour modification.
@iMichaelSpeaks Ohhh I love this that you've done and said brother.
Exactly, sin nature is not in us anymore.
So if that sin nature is not in us anymore why do you then want to focus on the fruit and not what changed the roots, Grace took out the sin nature, then instead
@iMichaelSpeaks This is the biggest problem here, using English to define biblical words, show me bible sir, not AI English.
And after then tell me the one Jesus Christ died for, whether it is sin or iniquity????
@iMichaelSpeaks That's saves him, the power over sin is by Hyper Grace. There's no where that anybody has given people licence to sin, it's just doctrinal illiteracy.
Open bible bring scriptures let's talk
@iMichaelSpeaks Yes I know it's not a license, nobody needs a license to sin, sin is our nature, you don't have to give licence to a growing child before they lie it's innate.
What I am telling you is that telling a drowning man that he is drowning doesn't save him, it's showing him the solut
I’m not sure why Eternal Security continues to be an issue in the faith, but it’s not new.
First, preachers should be more humble and accommodating on the pulpit. Calling people who believe or preach eternal security “demonic” is really poor from Pastor Dolapo. These are young men God is using, and they will be better.
Second, this idea that, it is the people who preach eternal salvation that are making people sin, is very immature if not wicked, but much more opposite of what scripture teaches. Scripture actually clearly says that it is the LAW that causes people to sin.
Then to the main exegesis, scripture actually teaches Eternal Security. It’s so clearly written that, the best you can do is present other parts of scripture (valid) that appear to contradict it (though there’s no contradiction in scripture. Not to recklessly call people who believe in eternal security demonic.
I can give you a plethora of scriptures that unmistakably back eternal security, and I’m not sure why it is so regularly demonized. The best we can do is keep engaging with humility:
John 3:16
John 3:36
John 5:24
John 6:37–40
John 6:47
John 6:54
John 10:27–30
(I have given you eternal life, you cannot perish nor be snatched out of my hands)
Romans 8:1
Romans 8:28–39
Philippians 1:6
1 Thessalonians 5:23–24
2 Timothy 1:12
Hebrews 7:25
(Salvation is entirely God’s work from the beginning to the end. Including Rom 8:38 NOTHING CAN SEPARATE the believer from the love of Christ…)
Ephesians 1:13–14
Ephesians 4:30
2 Corinthians 1:21–22
2 Corinthians 5:5
(We are SEALED in the HOLY GHOST, with a GUARANTEE)
I can reference even MORE scriptures than I already have here to prove eternal salvation.
The fact there are other references that warn the believer not to fall off, does not make Eternal Salvation heretic or demonic. Preachers should be more humble. What you’re calling demonic is actually the written word.
Pastor Adedolapo Lawal , sir I thought you knew better than this though.
According to your own John 3.16, the one who has believed has eternal life and will perish right?
Eternal life is quality of life, it is God’s life, you said, so does God’s life see condemnation, does God’s righteousness perish?
Sir, you can’t demarcate Spiritual birth from spiritual growth?
You are asking what are the epistles for?
They are for revelation, development in ministry, maturity in that which we have received, warning against lifestyles that do not reflect our righteousness.
Cos we all know the reason for school is to grow our kids mentally, spiritual development and growth is never same as spiritual birth!!
You even said Hypergrace is the reason sins are everywhere.
Bro, how many churches preach Hypergrace?
So all the sins in rccg is sponsored by Hypergrace?
All the lies in deeperlife?
They don’t tell lies in your own churches?
No one has fornicated there?
You people talk like you produce some better saints than we do.
Look through politics, most offices are filled with members of prominent Pentecostal churches yet corruption is the order of the day!
I was thinking you were different but bro, on this, you messed up!
Like you really messed up!
Like this is real mess up!
Like you should learn Bible before teaching!
Omo, you mess up!
See the way you are talking with confidence!
Your pastor that wears earring, if he was in Naija, do you think holiness people will count him as saved?
You dare say sins are everywhere because of Hypergrace!
PFN will not settle these issues o!
Cos we be on our own but yall won’t let us rest!
We didn’t die for sins eternally, Jesus did that.
We didn’t give anyone eternal life, Jesus did that!
If you claim a believer who goes into traditional religion is unsaved, are you unsaved every time you sin or you are now measuring sins by which one is too high that the blood of Jesus has not paid for?
Sir, don’t reach me inbox on this one o, this one na public matter, if he sure for you say Hypergrace nor Dey Bible, set up a proper debate on the subject, I will meet you there cos at this point, we need that convo!!
Pastor Adedolapo Lawal , sir I thought you knew better than this though.
According to your own John 3.16, the one who has believed has eternal life and will perish right?
Eternal life is quality of life, it is God’s life, you said, so does God’s life see condemnation, does God’s righteousness perish?
Sir, you can’t demarcate Spiritual birth from spiritual growth?
You are asking what are the epistles for?
They are for revelation, development in ministry, maturity in that which we have received, warning against lifestyles that do not reflect our righteousness.
Cos we all know the reason for school is to grow our kids mentally, spiritual development and growth is never same as spiritual birth!!
You even said Hypergrace is the reason sins are everywhere.
Bro, how many churches preach Hypergrace?
So all the sins in rccg is sponsored by Hypergrace?
All the lies in deeperlife?
They don’t tell lies in your own churches?
No one has fornicated there?
You people talk like you produce some better saints than we do.
Look through politics, most offices are filled with members of prominent Pentecostal churches yet corruption is the order of the day!
I was thinking you were different but bro, on this, you messed up!
Like you really messed up!
Like this is real mess up!
Like you should learn Bible before teaching!
Omo, you mess up!
See the way you are talking with confidence!
Your pastor that wears earring, if he was in Naija, do you think holiness people will count him as saved?
You dare say sins are everywhere because of Hypergrace!
PFN will not settle these issues o!
Cos we be on our own but yall won’t let us rest!
We didn’t die for sins eternally, Jesus did that.
We didn’t give anyone eternal life, Jesus did that!
If you claim a believer who goes into traditional religion is unsaved, are you unsaved every time you sin or you are now measuring sins by which one is too high that the blood of Jesus has not paid for?
Sir, don’t reach me inbox on this one o, this one na public matter, if he sure for you say Hypergrace nor Dey Bible, set up a proper debate on the subject, I will meet you there cos at this point, we need that convo!!