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Love them

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@michal_ptacnik I set personhood at a lower bar than you. I don’t think people without those should be classified as things.

Our language is limited, but as of now we have personhood and thing.

And animals can have obligations, reciprocity and they even seem to occasionally have ideas.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

Most animals are people in the ways that matter. They have personalities and a subjective experience of the world.

Doing calculus, or putting on clothes is not what makes someone a someone. Being a unique individual with their own thoughts is what makes someone a someone.

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cetaceans are very obviously “people” and sapient to a degree indistinguishable from humans, and this is basically scientific consensus at this point.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@sapiogenic David Attenborough is not an animal rights activist at all. He is more of an environmentalist/conservationist type. It’s a different psychology. He’s been decent on this issue but I have a very low bar.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

I never understood devout animal rights activists who weren’t vegan, so this is great to see!

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Curtis Sliwa tells PIX 11 News that he's becoming a vegan to stand up for animal rights.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@0meletti @LilUziVartan @LinkofSunshine The trait most people use now to recognize others as persons is being human. That wasn’t always the case.

Basing what a person is on vibes with no identifiable criteria is silly. A teddy bear can be a person, a tree, a dog can be a person while a pig is not.

We need criteria.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@0meletti @LilUziVartan @LinkofSunshine That’s a terrible classification. You need some criteria that can be applied consistently. Peer recognition is subject to the type of bias that lead certain groups of humans not being recognized as persons simply because of bigotry.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@AbundanceBro So someone without grammar and a shared history is not a person?

And what is sapience? I’ve never heard a good definition that doesn’t exclude a lot of people.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@0meletti @LilUziVartan @LinkofSunshine So if you say whales are not people because they don’t have X trait, you’ve just made a scientific claim.

So yes verifying if other animals have personhood is a scientific question. Discussing what personhood is, is a philosophical discussion, but even that is science informed.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@0meletti @LilUziVartan @LinkofSunshine Neither of you will answer so I will just spell it out.

The traits you are going to use to justify personhood have to be scientifically verified since science is what attempts to verify empirical claims,

Philosophy may generate the values but science helps inform them.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@LilUziVartan @LinkofSunshine What do you think makes someone a person vs a thing?

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@madison_tayt the fermented cashew cheeses taste just as good but they are expensive and don’t melt.

We need more vegans to drive economy of scale and innovation.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@VernonAndOn If we aren’t better than animals then it’s cruel to harm them just as it’s cruel to harm us. If we are better than animals then we should act better and hold ourselves to the highest standards of compassion and respect.

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Like obviously this is the internet and you can find aggressive people but this has nothing to do with veganism.

I’ve looked at the comments from a lot of justice movements and I don’t see a unique level of impoliteness coming from vegans.

Pro life vs pro choice. They polite?

[veganboi @baselessassert]

As far as animal rights activists go vegans are by far the most polite.

Meat eaters will threaten to kill you if you cause an animal they find cute mild distress.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

Dog and cat people are the same. Horse people too.

Vegans are comparatively docile.

And take a moment to understand the vegans perspective. You are defending the rape and murder of beings we care about. Often times you laugh at animal suffering. Vegans mostly just take it.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@1zzx11 @sibaburck The fact you blocked me over this tweet suggests you have a low threshold for “aggressive”

I’m pretty chill. I just disagree with your framing.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@juggking898029 People think it tastes good. I think pork tastes like shit. If I said pork is bad because I think it tastes bad that would be a terrible argument.

[veganboi @baselessassert]

Non vegan moral reasoning in a nutshell

[CheeseAuthority @GoudaCheeseling]

@baselessassert How tasty is the dog and how tasty is the tofu

[veganboi @baselessassert]

@juggking898029 They breed dogs for food in Korea. They even have a specific breed for this called the Korean edible dog.

Just say you like dogs and it makes you sad to see them killed. No need to make up a logic you don’t even agree with.