Diogenes Pre-Barrel

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@underachhamster @fatalchka Я бы просто ответил oh, sorry, don’t speak Ukrainian, I’m from *not-Russia*.
В чем проблема?

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@KVbeachcomber @the_jefferymead @GavinNewsom You think I hate Elon, I do not. I'm not into cults of personality. The billionaires are pretty much ordinary people, driven into megalomania not by choice but by the society and its institutions. They are as much victims of capitalism as anyone else. Abandoned and lonely

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

Watching humanity speedrun itself into extinctions is engaging enough. I have no interest in creating artificial engagement by baiting or whatever. I didn't see the original tweet by Newsom, so even though politically my opinion is misplaced and irrelevant, my social commentary doesn't depend on my geographical location. Since we all live in an interconnected world fueled by late state capitalism

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@Chrondike @Zvbear There's no sarcasm obvious enough, right?
On the eighth day, God gave us /s

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

I'm not blaming the actors, but the game is rigged. Your story and mine are very different. I didn't grow up wealthy or anything like that, but whatever success I had was mostly due to chance.
I used to work in IT. I was making well above the market for a white-collar worker. I was lucky to have studied software engineering before it became a thing. I was lucky to be smart enough for the learning to be basically effortless. I then was likable enough to make friends that were in the industry. So on and so forth

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@Chrondike @Zvbear Is sarcasm illegal at where you are?

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

Not to take away from your efforts, but as someone growing up in a government housing shouldn't you be more empathetic to the struggles of the underclass? And support taxing to fund social programs. You don't take handouts yet when your family was at its most vulnerable you were supported by what you now want to call a handout

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

You have a pair of boots. You either made them yourself or exchanged with the maker for the fruits of your labor. In no way I think you are obliged to provide me with boots as a shoemaker even if I’m in dare need for a pair.
How can someone own land? Neither they nor their ancestors made the land. It is in no way a product of their labor. The ownership depends on their ability to project violence. You can’t trace the landownership back in time to its maker. So it can’t be owned through exchange the same way a pair of boots can.
You and I are born into the same world as a landowner. We both need to provide for ourselves, so we work the land, now the landowner somehow has rights to the fruits of our labor.
The problem can be masked through the idea that the owner came into possession morally by buying land. Yet it only hides the fact that it wasn’t made by anyone to enter the market in the first place.
Now it is not the entrepreneurs that produce novelty are at fault. But the haves, the haves that claim theirs what can’t be owned

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

You have a pair of boots. You either made them yourself or exchanged with the maker for the fruits of your labor. In no way I think you are obliged to provide me with boots as a shoemaker even if I’m in dare need for a pair.
How can someone own land? Neither they nor their ancestors made the land. It is in no way a product of their labor. The ownership depends on their ability to project violence. You can’t trace the landownership back in time to its maker. So it can’t be owned through exchange the same way a pair of boots can.
You and I are born into the same world as a landowner. We both need to provide for ourselves, so we work the land, now the landowner somehow has rights to the fruits of our labor.
The problem can be masked through the idea that the owner came into possession morally by buying land. Yet it only hides the fact that it wasn’t made by anyone to enter the market in the first place.
Now it is not the entrepreneurs that produce novelty are at fault. But the haves, the haves that claim theirs what can’t be owned

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

No need to redistribute anything. Compensation for any labor that has a market must be livable. I’m not saying it must be lavish or whatevs. You should be able to provide yourself with clothing, food and shelter working 30ish hours a week. Not at a BS job, like healer working with crystals.
If you want to grind you do you.
Otherwise people should be able to opt out of the grind, making a living with dignity. Even if such a system is not the most productive and the most optimized for innovation

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@MaryCerasi1 @the_jefferymead @GavinNewsom Is it a moral fault not to climb the ladder up?

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

You can cheer both. That’s what leftists do. They try to ameliorate capitalism with participation trophies. That’s why they are disliked.
If winning is the point, it’s in the structure of the game itself, giving trophies to losers changes nothing.
I think it is a fairytale that at the end of this rainbow of exploitation lies a pot of human prosperity, once reached it’d make every sacrifice worthwhile.
I’d rather have humanity never industrialized than endure all that workers in Britain went through. Our present moment isn’t worth of both kids and adults grinding at factories for endless hours. The future prosperity is not worth us postponing and sacrificing our lives

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@toddage_cheese @the_jefferymead @GavinNewsom It’s not, agree. Elon is just a symbol for our greed, very much like his wealth is not the actual thing but a symbol of wealth

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@LrdMalev @the_jefferymead @GavinNewsom So? I didn’t notice it was a reply to Newsom, making the discussion local, otherwise marching on of avarice is international

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@4thJet @the_jefferymead @GavinNewsom Did I say it’s Musk’s fault? I’m saying the system feeds wrong tendencies in humans. Making us cheer for the winners and despise the losers

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@itan_tennenbaum Я в восторге. В первую очередь вес. Тонкость это тоже классная эргономика. А рисков погнуть нет — он титановый. Не выше риски чем с другими моделями в ряде

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@VKatovsky @Pravonapadenie Huh, you think that it wasn’t an inevitable and logical continuation of the idea of profit?

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

I’m the last person to advocate for a modernist bulshit built on an idea of a better tomorrow, like communism.
And I don’t think it is appropriate to measure the quality of a system of ideas by the measure the explicitly maximize—judging capitalism by material gains—meh.
Are people happier? Are they working less and having more leisure? Medieval peasants used to have half a year off. Now you grind on bs jobs for the sake of things that you wouldn’t miss in their absence

[Diogenes Pre-Barrel @basicdiogenes]

@ZeNoseGrows @the_jefferymead @GavinNewsom I don’t remember me becoming a cut throat capitalist