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[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@SisterCentipede @FreeWarfare @LegendandLore @Eddy63887683 @MetroUK It clearly wasn't at the forethought of Lana's mind. And she lost a couple more for interpretations that are much more likely plausible as we see them represented within the film

As long as people can consider that and say it's not definitively X with baseless evidence then fine

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@SisterCentipede @FreeWarfare @LegendandLore @Eddy63887683 @MetroUK It dismisses the idea that both of them had the idea that it was a trans allegory from the get-go. That's what it does. That's not the way you and others paint it

Sure that's fine but to say it's definitively a trans allegory in 100% assurance is wrong

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@SisterCentipede @FreeWarfare @LegendandLore @Eddy63887683 @MetroUK So? Lily said it was an allegory, Lana said they didn't have that in mind when writing it? Am I supposed to believe Lilly over Lana?

And the "evidence" people put up isn't great or believable either.

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@abrahams_wife @DannPlol @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK I'm not surprised you can't read. I never compared it to Christ imagery

I'm discussing the film with people. But keep denying reality

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@abrahams_wife @DannPlol @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK Umm I never did that. But keep deludi g yourself. They're both trans btw. And they both still wrote it so.....

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@abrahams_wife @DannPlol @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK Yeah just like you were doing the same thing to me with your insults lol. Don't pretend like you weren't

You're the one who brought followers up fam. I can do whatever I want on social media. If you can't argue against me then cope. :)

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Ghosttea9 @FeoNo2 @MetroUK I don't think you know what that word means

Them being trans doesn't mean that was the interpretation they had in mind both of them are heavy into science fiction and the references to other films are prevalent.

And one of them said that was the intention, the other didn't

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@PunishedMeadow @digitildream @EugeneEsch @MetroUK Really that is your evidence? Wow just totally compelling and believable. Really well done

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@abrahams_wife @DannPlol @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK No I just said that to get under your skin because i knew it would bother you

You were never intending on discussing this in good faith you literally resorted to name-calling bro

This is alt acct lol. And you have 7,000 followers yet barely anyone interacts with your tweets

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @Roaming_Zealot @mercurialblonde @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK Sure buddy

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @carolineb180 @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK They are scenes in a film that the director says is X only one of them mind you. Yeah because I think the other Creator is relevant in the discussion of this considering both of them made it.

Based off of the reasons you and the article listed I don't find it compelling

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @Roaming_Zealot @mercurialblonde @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK Because I find the comparisons between JK Rowling and Lily wachowski prevalent

I have countered against the scenes that we are talking about and interpreting it is not X because you say it is it is scenes that we can discuss whether or not one is more likely than the other

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@PunishedMeadow @digitildream @EugeneEsch @MetroUK Except Lana specifically said that they didn't have that intention in mind when writing it or at least she didn't.

Talking about the original matrix and I didn't see any hints of trans allegoriness in the new one

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@abrahams_wife @DannPlol @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK Because it's irrelevant topic. Your entire reply to me has just been crying and complaining that the film was "totally a trans allegory you guys"

If I'm a kid then then it's kind of weird that you're talking to me. Maybe the trans are predators thing might be accurate

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @carolineb180 @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK I will try to find it again

I do think so but people will constantly tout up the directors when saying that it was an allegory when only one of them ever did.

The trans references are not confirmed factual references they are interpretations through a trans lens

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @Roaming_Zealot @mercurialblonde @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK Also since you missed the rest
https://t.co/5Stuvlh15U

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @Roaming_Zealot @mercurialblonde @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK But people like to ignore what Lana said in favor of what Lily said and since then anytime anyone references the wachowskis they usually go off of what Lily said. Notice how lily is the only one who's been promoting this idea. She's always the one referenced

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @Roaming_Zealot @mercurialblonde @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK No I counted what I think the more accurate interpretations of the scenes are.
But nice way of straw maning my argument.

Sure give me some time and I'll go provide the quote and to be clear I never said decline I said that wasn't the intention Lana had

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @Roaming_Zealot @mercurialblonde @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK Even if both of them were to come out today and say oh yeah it was totally a trans allegory the entire time that still doesn't win any argument

Because JK Rowling has repeatedly come out and talked about how Harry Potter was actually this and that. But we don't believe her

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @Roaming_Zealot @mercurialblonde @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK But people like to ignore what Lana said in favor of what Lily said and since then anytime anyone references the wachowskis they usually go off of what Lily said. Notice how lily is the only one who's been promoting this idea. She's always the one referenced

[Bate Man @Batemanning]

@Oon3yH @carolineb180 @AndreCorbin1 @MetroUK Lana specifically said that that just wasn't what they had in mind when writing the film or at least Lana didn't.

Which I'm not surprised by because the matrix isn't a trans allegory. What Lily is doing is basically what JK Rowling did for Dumbledore