@J27339955@just_mindy This is just luck. And we did sleep train and I’m supportive of it. But that happens around 4-5 months. Kids sleeping through the night before that is just good fortune lol
@scissormountain Eh, I dealt with infertility & miscarried 3 consecutive pregnancies after heartbeat and now have a daughter after moving mountains, pursuing surrogacy, etc. This doesn't offend me. Two things can be true. Motherhood is a miraculous privilege and it is challenging.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose Well, with midterms coming up, I suspect we won't be accomplishing much democratically in either of our desired directions for a few years!
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose We've used societal consensus to determine rape & murder are amoral. But we have no societal consensus on when life begins (embryo, fetus, birth, etc). So, let people exercise their judgement, based on religion, or not.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose Because not everyone believes God is a higher authority we answer to, or the determining voice in morality. You're free to exercise your own morality (influenced by God or not) in your decision making, but not to impose it on others.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose We are a nuclear family; husband & wife, I lost 3 babies to miscarriage after undergoing IVF due to infertility. We had remaining embryos w/evidence I can’t carry. We found a local mom willing to help us, we treated her w/love & respect & she brought us a child we adore. Amoral?
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose Yes, but my point remains - the belief that using IVF & surrogacy to build our family is evil is based VERY heavily in religion, not morality. You are looking to impose religious beliefs, not just morality, on others.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose Yes and I guess I don’t see how there is anything evil to family building, and I certainly don’t see how someone could look at our family and equate it to slavery. Your religion makes you see evil in places where there is a lot of love, and that’s really too bad.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose You and others of your religious background are free to decline IVF, donor sperm or eggs, embryo adoption, surrogacy and abortion. Yet that is never enough. Somehow, me, my husband and our very loved daughter offend you.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose Yes, but not all of us share your belief that God is the ultimate decider of who can and can’t be parents. I don’t understand the desire to impose your religious beliefs on others, especially through law or regulation, in a country founded on the separation of church and state.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose I suppose it’s easy to be against things if you’ve never needed them and have no first hand experience. How many beautiful loving families wouldn’t exist today if everyone shared your views. Also, we’re facing a fertility crisis & declining birth rate.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose Anecdotally, embryo adoption is fairly rare. Usually at least one person in the relationship has viable genetic material, and then you purchase donor eggs or sperm accordingly.
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose With surrogacy, you’re also not “buying a child” - you’re paying the surrogate’s time, energy, risk plus all the other supportive services like medical care, lawyers, insurance policies, PTO, etc
@DelCoAbolition@LilaGraceRose Yes, some LGBTQ couples or those where a husband/wife can’t produce viable eggs or sperm, may purchase donor material. But that’s not really specific to surrogacy. Is your issue with sperm and egg donors? I’m not really following
@AConcernedPare2 Uh, go be a considerate cousin and get the damn booster. Tdap’s whooping cough protections last even less than the 10 years it covers you for. Which is the concern for new parents & baby. Or don’t expect to meet the child.
@corey_sarah265@CaryW66@LilaGraceRose Be grateful you didn’t need to borrow a uterus. You know who does? People who suffer recurrent miscarriage, people who lost their uterus to a traumatic birth, people who receive a diagnosis that makes carrying subsequent pregnancies life threatening, cancer patients.
@LilaGraceRose Yes, because she broke the contract that will now cost them a lifetime of heartbreak and medical bills. They likely spent more than $100k for the surrogacy journey, only for it to devolve into this shit show.
@Country_Thinker@LilaGraceRose What would you like people to do, if they already created embryos from many years of attempting to carry themselves? Destroy them?