Bill Gregory

Interested in good discussions around social issues, policy, govt, and leadership without all the personal attacks but if they come, I give.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@CNSGg3214 @EdwardTWinz If you don't care about what is true then you how do you know that what you do care about is not a lie?

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@MN6Watch @EdwardTWinz @CBSNews @YouGovAmerica Good luck getting this group to understand the reality of what your telling them. I would offer up Thoughts & Prayers but I suspect it won't be any more helpful than it has been in stopping mass shootings.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

Have you realized yet that this bill doesn’t actually have 80% public support? The claim in that post is misleading at best or an intentional lie at worst.
Broad support for requiring voter ID at the polls is very high at around 80%, but that’s not the same as support for this specific legislation and its proof-of-citizenship requirements. It’s ironic how often I hear people on the right call the left “sheep,” while repeating talking points based on misinformation they haven’t bothered to examine. In doing so, they show they’re squarely in the middle of the flock themselves.

https://t.co/KF7jV0AWRz

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

Have you realized yet that this bill doesn’t actually have 80% public support? The claim in that post is misleading at best or an intentional lie at worst.
Broad support for requiring voter ID at the polls is very high at around 80%, but that’s not the same as support for this specific legislation and its proof-of-citizenship requirements. It’s ironic how often I hear people on the right call the left “sheep,” while repeating talking points based on misinformation they haven’t bothered to examine. In doing so, they show they’re squarely in the middle of the flock themselves.

https://t.co/KF7jV0AWRz

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@CNSGg3214 @EdwardTWinz This is so typical. The original post is lying to you about the overall support for this bill. Let's start there.

https://t.co/62KPaOB5Sy

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@bravos_1 @martydamus @EdwardTWinz Why do people not do any research on these issues? They claim that any non-conservative voter is a sheep and then prove how they are in the middle of a whole flock of sheep with their very own comments.

https://t.co/62KPaOB5Sy

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

I didn't think so: Grok says "No, it's not accurate to say that 80% of Americans support this specific bill. The 80% figure (actually closer to 83–84% in recent polls) refers to support for requiring some type of voter ID—typically showing a government-issued photo ID at the polls—not the stricter requirements in the bill referenced in the X post." ... "When people are asked about the full SAVE Act (which mandates documentary proof of citizenship for federal voter registration, plus other election changes), support is noticeably lower than the generic "voter ID" question."

https://t.co/WQMGM7EqX9

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@StocksALot @Milajoy See previous response:

https://t.co/9b5gTYB90h

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

You're right, you don't have to prove anything to anyone but you certainly should pull back on that bravado if you can't or aren't willing to show the receipts for it. Otherwise your credibility is lost for everything else that you might have good reasons to make.

And for the sake of consistency, the same applies to the moral signaling. Until you can show that "thoughts and prayers" actually produce measurable results, maybe hold back on that too.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

You're right, you don't have to prove anything to anyone but you certainly should pull back on that bravado if you can't or aren't willing to show the receipts for it. Otherwise your credibility is lost for everything else that you might have good reasons to make.

And for the sake of consistency, the same applies to the moral signaling. Until you can show that "thoughts and prayers" actually produce measurable results, maybe hold back on that too.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@4091TheGoose @EricLDaugh Thank you! I get similar realizations from a lot of folks that I engage with and I do consider it a compliment at the same level it's intended.

Have a good day!

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

Still not a factual argument about me being the problem, but okay—let's do facts.

When have I denied the real issues we experience in California? Yes the Dems have made mistakes in policies along the decades they've been in control. It's not the 'gotcha moment' you think it is with me. What you also have foolishly tried to do is dismiss the dominance the state has in the areas I've noted. You may not comprehend that both can be true at the same time but I trust that others do.

Now let’s address your specific “#1” claims, because they’re missing important context. Any serious data analyst knows a larger state, by population, economy, land area, etc, will naturally lead the table in raw absolute numbers on almost anything but that doesn't automatically result in it being the worst state in the nation in those areas. To make honest “apples to apples” comparisons between states, you have to look at totals as a proportion of population (i.e., per capita). Otherwise the post comes across as intentionally misleading rather than informative.

#1 in Homeless is true if you are only looking at absolute numbers, about 187K which absolutely is the highest number in the country and would be expected with a population of 39M people. To make a true comparison ranking the number of homeless per 10K CA is still high but ranks 3rd behind HI and NY. So not #1.
HI - 81 per 10K
NY - 79 per 10K
CA - 48 per 10K

#1 Debt: The same principle applies. In absolute numbers CA does have the highest debt. When make a true comparison such as debt per resident CA ranks 10th.
CT - $26K per person
NJ - $23K per person
Followed by HI, DE, IL, MA, WY, AK, & ND with
CA - $7.5K per person in 10th place

#1 Taxes: Yes we pay a lot of taxes in CA but how doe we rank in comparison with other states. To do a true comparison we have to consider the total tax burden of a resident as percentage of their income. In this true comparison CA ranks #11.

HI - 13.30% of residents income
NY - 12.30%
VT - 11.10%
NM - 10.75%
ME - 10.01%
IL - 9.92%
MD - 9.70%
NJ - 9.52%
OR - 9.46%
RI - 9.29%
CA - 9.24%

The original point was about voter realities nationwide. Try something relevant next time. I know it's sad but it's also true that cherry-picking doesn't win arguments.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@StocksALot @Milajoy You do sound very confident!

Just not confident enough to actually prove it. LOL

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

You’ve once again let your feelings distort your thinking so badly that you’re seeing blame where none was directed at you. In the process, you casually revealed an impressively extensive knowledge of all things gay—enough to judge someone’s ‘level of gayness’ from a single photo. What fairy dust are you sprinkling? 😂

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@StocksALot @Milajoy And if you need further proof, I would be happy to compare real life portfolio's if you're up to the challenge.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@JustDoNotFollo @GH_Hat_Trick @Milajoy They just melt away.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@LewisJames81934 @Milajoy Then allow me:

https://t.co/K8JXhNsxQp

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@LewisJames81934 @Milajoy Yes, and I might actually feel the weight of that if any of those adults could articulate a single reasonable thought in a properly constructed sentence, but it doesn't look like I have to worry too much about that.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@BogoKarma @Milajoy No one was 'poo pooing' anything. Simply stating facts.

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@BogoKarma @Milajoy https://t.co/5hLvFmBiT2

[Bill Gregory @bcgregory]

@BogoKarma @Milajoy I didn't think so.