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@bernardocarambo@SecoursPop Je m’en doutais bien. Mais autant le tweet reste vague, autant la vidéo dit spécifiquement que c’est 68% du revenu disponible (donc après transferts) ce qui est non seulement faux mais mathématiquement impossible.
@SecoursPop Hey @grok, trouve la source de ces taux de 12% et 68%, avancés dans la vidéo, parmi les données INSEE. Ont-ils le même dénominateur (revenu disponible) ?
Mais par quel calcul arrive-t-on à trouver que les plus pauvres paient 68% de revenu disponible en impôts alors qu’ils en paient 12% en TVA et 0% en IR ?
Quels impôts les plus pauvres paient-ils (hors TVA et hors IR) à hauteur de 56% de leur revenu disponible ?
Mathématiquement, 12% du revenu disponible en TVA ca veut dire au moins 60% de conso TTC. +56% en autres impôts ca voudrait dire qu’ils dépensent au moins 116% de leur revenu disponible.
A Texas oilfield services company explains that Trump's tariffs pushed it into bankruptcy. https://t.co/PyBMOVHmzV
If you drill oil abroad and import it to USA, Trump gives you a tariff exemption, but if you drill for oil in USA, you have to pay Trump's tariffs.
Vous confondez la conséquence et la cause. Ce n’est pas la monnaie qui cause la rareté, la monnaie permet de faciliter les échanges dans un monde ou les ressources sont limitées.
Vous pensez vraiment que si on aboli la monnaie – Et on fait quoi ? On revient au troc ? – il n’y aura plus de compétition pour les ressources ?
@MarcChinal@Toyec_PE On pourrait supprimer la monnaie, aucun des problèmes décrit dans votre papier ne disparaîtrait.
Et je ne comprends pas bien par quel mécanisme la monnaie serait responsable de l’absence d’arbres fruitiers en ville.
@agmethod75@texasrunnerDFW Except that share has increased.
And really, your argument is that we should have taken more when the current retirees were working? Guess who was in charge of deciding how much to collect when the current retirees were working…
We can argue about whether property taxes should exist at all. I might disagree, because economics show they are among the keast bad taxes. But it’s a fair argument to want them gone.
But saying that we should get rid of property taxes only for seniors or people who have bought the property fully is where I take issue.
Also why should she not pay for schools? Didn’t she have kids thay went to school? Should people who don’t have kids also not pay for schools? Should those who don’t have cars not pay for roads? Can people opt-out of contributing to medicate and social security if they don’t plan to use it? This is a ridiculous line of thinking
Your argument was that they paid THEIR OWN medicare. We could consider it to be the case if they were getting back what they paid into it not more. (In fact it’s never the case because it’s a PAYGO system).
Now you’re making a different point. And indeed the system runs a structural deficit. Even though current contributors contribute more relative to current beneficiaries.
Look, I think (along with a bunch of economists) that property taxes are among the least bad taxes (land value tax are even less bad) but if there is a political discussion to get rid of them, then @texasrunnerDFW is right, it should be for everyone not based on age.
@NancyMace If you’re going to eliminate property taxes, you have to eliminate them across the board, not pick and choose select age groups to benefit while others carry the increased burden